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Harmony parts

Carl Moon <carl.moon@...>
 

Hi

How do I print harmony parts with Band-in-a-Box.
Carl


How do I add my personal styles to the Band-in-a-Box StylePicker list?

Carl Moon <carl.moon@...>
 

 
Do you want to add your personal styles to the Band-in-a-Box StylePicker list? Here is how
 
 


Re: Melodies Using Realtracks #WindowsUsers

David H. Bailey
 

On 4/27/2020 11:04 PM, Mario Grillo wrote:
Hello All. Is it possible to have the melody notes use a realtrack? If they can make a chord why not just one note at a time?
It's not possible at the moment to use realtracks to play the melody.

The sounds of the realtracks are riffs that are recorded by humans and then altered digitally to be able to be used in different keys and with different chords. But the library is huge since each riff is recorded in its own little file. The realtracks library is not single notes which are combined like individual notes in a midi-based style.

I just tested this -- I used the Melodist to generate a melody and chords, using a realstyle. The melody was created with a midi instrument. I tried to substitute a realtrack piano player and what came out was a series of riffs (as had been recorded to create the realtrack) instead of the melody that BIAB had generated. Trying to put a realtrack into the melody channel rewrites whatever is in the melody channel to begin with.

You should make this suggestion to PGMusic and possibly they will include this ability in a future edition.


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Melodies Using Realtracks #WindowsUsers

Mario Grillo
 

Hello All. Is it possible to have the melody notes use a realtrack? If they can make a chord why not just one note at a time?
Txx


Re: Children Songs

Carl Moon <carl.moon@...>
 

Thanks Hayward for the link. I also needed it.
Carl


Re: Children Songs

Hayward Martin
 

I didn’t see my attachment go through, so here’s a link…

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Asf_MVrLFgfYurQXamXWmuaIh7yIPw?e=mocCI4

 

 

From: Hayward Martin
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Band-In-A-Box] children's songs and Disney songs #MacUsers

 

Have a MIDI file for it, but not a BIAB file (Attached).  

Can import it, into Real Band or BIAB, (If you can figure out how…  I Can’t, at least not well).

 

Hayward

 

 

From: j.heisel@...
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:58 AM
To: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io
Subject: [Band-In-A-Box] children's songs and Disney songs #MacUsers

 

Is there a collection of children's songs and/or Disney hit songs in BIAB files?  I am particularly looking for "Let It Go" from the movie "Frozen".   Thanks!  Judy

 

 


Re: Children Songs

Hayward Martin
 

Have a MIDI file for it, but not a BIAB file (Attached).  

Can import it, into Real Band or BIAB, (If you can figure out how…  I Can’t, at least not well).

 

Hayward

 

 

From: j.heisel@...
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:58 AM
To: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io
Subject: [Band-In-A-Box] children's songs and Disney songs #MacUsers

 

Is there a collection of children's songs and/or Disney hit songs in BIAB files?  I am particularly looking for "Let It Go" from the movie "Frozen".   Thanks!  Judy

 


Re: Children Songs

j.heisel@...
 

If you get that link, would you send it to me, too?  Many thanks!   Judy


Children Songs

j.heisel@...
 

Is there a collection of children's songs and/or Disney hit songs in BIAB files?  I am particularly looking for "Let It Go" from the movie "Frozen".   Thanks!  Judy


Re: Midi setup on new computer

Carl Moon <carl.moon@...>
 

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 06:21 PM, <sqig10@...> wrote:
Hi...I just got a new computer . My old computer worked with BB just fine with the same setup as I now have. I have a focusrite 2x6 USB ASIO SOUNDCARD. This works fine with my DAW /Reaper but I can’t get BB to recognize it, in the midi preferences. Even when I try to set the driver as an ASIO DRIVER BBtells me it cant set the ASIO driver up, “perhaps it is not installed properly” which is clearly not the case as it works fine on everything else.
i can’t get any sound out of BB although the mixed is showing the sounds are being sent. I’ve tried to use midmapper and Microsoft soundcard but they won’t work because my speakers are attached to the Focusrite, not the rear internal audio outputs.
Can anyone help me?
thank you in anticipation!

 Hi,
Here is a video explaining how to set up midi. I hope it helps you.
Carl

https://youtu.be/8m-Gga3gFFk


Re: Real drums tracks #BiaB2020

David H. Bailey
 

I guess I was thinking still in terms of midi notes, with each percussion instrument being a discreet pitch. I hadn't realized that of couse audio files don't conform so neatly to easily filtered pitches.

Oh well . . .
David H. Bailey

On 4/21/2020 2:24 PM, D F Tweedie via groups.io wrote:
David ...
Oops! I misread the 'filtering' part. Unfortunately, that wouldn't really work either, as due to harmonics pretty much all the instruments in a drum kit have have significant frequency information from 100 or 150 Hz to 2 kHz.
EQing out to filter creates phase shifts and when you attempted to put these tracks back together you'd have all kinds of gain bumps, gain drops and resonances interfering with coherency.
DF
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 10:58:54 AM PDT, David H. Bailey <dhbailey52@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/21/2020 12:16 PM, Sam Buttrey wrote:
> Greetings. Can Jim Mings or someone else point us to "save drums as
> individual tracks" with more detail? I'm on BiaB 2020 under Windows, and
> I just can't find that setting anywhere. Sorry for the hassle.
The nearest thing I can see is that when we export to audio, we can
export each track to its own file.  With the drums track saved to its
own file, that file could be opened in a DAW and then each note filtered
to its own track in the DAW.  Since each instrument in the drum track is
its own pitch, that should give the desired effect of separating the
different parts of a drum kit for further editing (adding notes,
removing notes, changing the velocity of notes, etc.)
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Re: Real drums tracks #BiaB2020

D F Tweedie
 

David ...

Oops! I misread the 'filtering' part. Unfortunately, that wouldn't really work either, as due to harmonics pretty much all the instruments in a drum kit have have significant frequency information from 100 or 150 Hz to 2 kHz.

EQing out to filter creates phase shifts and when you attempted to put these tracks back together you'd have all kinds of gain bumps, gain drops and resonances interfering with coherency.

DF

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 10:58:54 AM PDT, David H. Bailey <dhbailey52@...> wrote:


On 4/21/2020 12:16 PM, Sam Buttrey wrote:
> Greetings. Can Jim Mings or someone else point us to "save drums as
> individual tracks" with more detail? I'm on BiaB 2020 under Windows, and
> I just can't find that setting anywhere. Sorry for the hassle.

The nearest thing I can see is that when we export to audio, we can
export each track to its own file.  With the drums track saved to its
own file, that file could be opened in a DAW and then each note filtered
to its own track in the DAW.  Since each instrument in the drum track is
its own pitch, that should give the desired effect of separating the
different parts of a drum kit for further editing (adding notes,
removing notes, changing the velocity of notes, etc.)

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dhbailey52@...
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com




Re: Real drums tracks #BiaB2020

D F Tweedie
 

David

This works ... sort of. While each hit can be separated and all the kick hits, for an example, could be moved to a separate track, the inconsistencies of bleed make it unlikely to achieve something satisfactory. A kick hit with rides ringing in the background will process very differently from one that was played at a point in time with no competing sounds.

While you could say that there is always bleed when drums are recorded live ... and you would be right ... the difference is that you have processing using gates or downward expansion available that can push these background sounds to or near the inaudible on the individual tracks so that when you go to process the sound of the kick or snare track you will have much closer to a single tone and won't be troubled by amplifying or distorting the ambient sounds in unnatural ways.

If at all possible, it would take Herculean effort to similarly process a track created from snippets of audio, i.e., the tiny bits of recomposed hits of a specific instrument.

So, BIAB, just give us the multi-tracks of the drums. You already have them as that's how you created the stereo tracks.

DF

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 10:58:54 AM PDT, David H. Bailey <dhbailey52@...> wrote:


On 4/21/2020 12:16 PM, Sam Buttrey wrote:
> Greetings. Can Jim Mings or someone else point us to "save drums as
> individual tracks" with more detail? I'm on BiaB 2020 under Windows, and
> I just can't find that setting anywhere. Sorry for the hassle.

The nearest thing I can see is that when we export to audio, we can
export each track to its own file.  With the drums track saved to its
own file, that file could be opened in a DAW and then each note filtered
to its own track in the DAW.  Since each instrument in the drum track is
its own pitch, that should give the desired effect of separating the
different parts of a drum kit for further editing (adding notes,
removing notes, changing the velocity of notes, etc.)

--
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David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@...
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com




Re: Real drums tracks #BiaB2020

David H. Bailey
 

On 4/21/2020 12:16 PM, Sam Buttrey wrote:
Greetings. Can Jim Mings or someone else point us to "save drums as individual tracks" with more detail? I'm on BiaB 2020 under Windows, and I just can't find that setting anywhere. Sorry for the hassle.
The nearest thing I can see is that when we export to audio, we can export each track to its own file. With the drums track saved to its own file, that file could be opened in a DAW and then each note filtered to its own track in the DAW. Since each instrument in the drum track is its own pitch, that should give the desired effect of separating the different parts of a drum kit for further editing (adding notes, removing notes, changing the velocity of notes, etc.)

--
*****
David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@comcast.net
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com


Re: Real drums tracks #BiaB2020

D F Tweedie
 

Ahhh ... Jim. How a post can be so valuable and disappointing at the same time!

Great production tips. Took most of the let down pain away. :)

But a continuing bummer on RealTracks. Individual drum RealTracks is hats over snare number one on my BIAB wish list.

DF

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 9:55:10 AM PDT, Jim Mings <jamesmings2@...> wrote:


Hey Sam. I realize now that my answer was incomplete. Saving drums as individual tracks is under Midi file type --- Drums on separate tracks. Then when you import the midi files to Reaper, or whatever, you save them to separate tracks and you can choose your best samples for each part. That is the way I have done it. Real drum tracks are saved as a stereo file and I don't think they can be separated. Sorry for the confusion. I have been using mostly the Real Track drums in stereo and making them sound as good as possible using plugins. That saves a lot of time and has become my usual. Plus I have had good success in inserting drum loops in the DAW from Loop Masters, etc, that have great feel. I really like the Eric Harland loops, for example. They provide a lot of energy. Then I can have 2 drum sets going, and when I get lucky they will sync just fine. Or, I will alternate drum sets to enhance the form. often times I can find a folder of drum loops, each a few bars, and I will play around with their order to fit my song and try and get the grooves and the fills to land in the right places. Reaper is the easiest DAW that I know for syncing various parts. The easiest way is to set the tempo for the DAW to whatever the loop tempo is. If you get it right then you can insert all kinds of tracks recorded at different tempos. Now choose your tempo in Reaper and they will sync. I find this much more complicated in Logic and Pro Tools.To Me! It is best to choose loops that are near your target tempo, but I am surprised how far you can go and still get good results. Again, I apologize if I have made this more confusing than it already is. If you have further questions, please ask and I will try to help. Jim

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:16 PM Sam Buttrey <buttrey@...> wrote:
Greetings. Can Jim Mings or someone else point us to "save drums as individual tracks" with more detail? I'm on BiaB 2020 under Windows, and I just can't find that setting anywhere. Sorry for the hassle.


Re: Real drums tracks #BiaB2020

Jim Mings
 

Here is a link to a file I posted on SoundCloud that uses multiple drum sources: https://soundcloud.com/jim-mings/all-for-the-best. If you care to listen to others there, please do and note that I don't have a formula for how to do this. I try and serve the tune


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:55 PM Jim Mings via groups.io <jamesmings2=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey Sam. I realize now that my answer was incomplete. Saving drums as individual tracks is under Midi file type --- Drums on separate tracks. Then when you import the midi files to Reaper, or whatever, you save them to separate tracks and you can choose your best samples for each part. That is the way I have done it. Real drum tracks are saved as a stereo file and I don't think they can be separated. Sorry for the confusion. I have been using mostly the Real Track drums in stereo and making them sound as good as possible using plugins. That saves a lot of time and has become my usual. Plus I have had good success in inserting drum loops in the DAW from Loop Masters, etc, that have great feel. I really like the Eric Harland loops, for example. They provide a lot of energy. Then I can have 2 drum sets going, and when I get lucky they will sync just fine. Or, I will alternate drum sets to enhance the form. often times I can find a folder of drum loops, each a few bars, and I will play around with their order to fit my song and try and get the grooves and the fills to land in the right places. Reaper is the easiest DAW that I know for syncing various parts. The easiest way is to set the tempo for the DAW to whatever the loop tempo is. If you get it right then you can insert all kinds of tracks recorded at different tempos. Now choose your tempo in Reaper and they will sync. I find this much more complicated in Logic and Pro Tools.To Me! It is best to choose loops that are near your target tempo, but I am surprised how far you can go and still get good results. Again, I apologize if I have made this more confusing than it already is. If you have further questions, please ask and I will try to help. Jim

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:16 PM Sam Buttrey <buttrey@...> wrote:
Greetings. Can Jim Mings or someone else point us to "save drums as individual tracks" with more detail? I'm on BiaB 2020 under Windows, and I just can't find that setting anywhere. Sorry for the hassle.


Re: Real drums tracks #BiaB2020

Jim Mings
 

Hey Sam. I realize now that my answer was incomplete. Saving drums as individual tracks is under Midi file type --- Drums on separate tracks. Then when you import the midi files to Reaper, or whatever, you save them to separate tracks and you can choose your best samples for each part. That is the way I have done it. Real drum tracks are saved as a stereo file and I don't think they can be separated. Sorry for the confusion. I have been using mostly the Real Track drums in stereo and making them sound as good as possible using plugins. That saves a lot of time and has become my usual. Plus I have had good success in inserting drum loops in the DAW from Loop Masters, etc, that have great feel. I really like the Eric Harland loops, for example. They provide a lot of energy. Then I can have 2 drum sets going, and when I get lucky they will sync just fine. Or, I will alternate drum sets to enhance the form. often times I can find a folder of drum loops, each a few bars, and I will play around with their order to fit my song and try and get the grooves and the fills to land in the right places. Reaper is the easiest DAW that I know for syncing various parts. The easiest way is to set the tempo for the DAW to whatever the loop tempo is. If you get it right then you can insert all kinds of tracks recorded at different tempos. Now choose your tempo in Reaper and they will sync. I find this much more complicated in Logic and Pro Tools.To Me! It is best to choose loops that are near your target tempo, but I am surprised how far you can go and still get good results. Again, I apologize if I have made this more confusing than it already is. If you have further questions, please ask and I will try to help. Jim


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:16 PM Sam Buttrey <buttrey@...> wrote:
Greetings. Can Jim Mings or someone else point us to "save drums as individual tracks" with more detail? I'm on BiaB 2020 under Windows, and I just can't find that setting anywhere. Sorry for the hassle.


Re: Real drums tracks #BiaB2020

D F Tweedie
 

Fantastic. I need to take a deeper look.

Is this true for all RealDrums or only for more recent offerings?

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 3:00:20 AM PDT, Jim Mings <jamesmings2@...> wrote:


Yes you can. Save drums as individual tracks. Look at save options. 


On Apr 12, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Emilio via groups.io <emiliocantini@...> wrote:

Hi everyone 
Can I split a real drum track into separate tracks, each one with a drum piece, when I export to a DAW?  I use Reaper. 
Many thanks


Re: Real drums tracks #BiaB2020

Sam Buttrey
 

Greetings. Can Jim Mings or someone else point us to "save drums as individual tracks" with more detail? I'm on BiaB 2020 under Windows, and I just can't find that setting anywhere. Sorry for the hassle.


Re: FDA Medical Masks Exclusive Discount For Band In A Box Group

David H. Bailey
 

On 4/21/2020 6:28 AM, rob via groups.io wrote:
well done my friend !!!!     rob !
[snip]

thanks -- I wish there were some way I could change the settings for this list so that any new member gets moderated for a while so that such nonsense would never make it to the group.

However, I can see no such setting for the group as a total. I can only find ways to set moderation for an individual member and I don't have the time to check the membership list every day to see if anybody new has joined.

Alisdair is still the owner of the group -- perhaps as owner he can make that sort of change. As a moderator I can't see any way to make the change.

I will be happy to moderate any posts that result from making that change.


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