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Re: Digest Number 16

heathw@...
 

One thing I would like is BB to be able to do double sharps and flats in
notation.
Heath

David Bailey wrote:


Regarding #1, in pop music chords from outside the key are very often
used, so if the song were in Gb as you indicate, and the piano part is
supposed to play an Eminor chord, the B had better be notated as a B
and
not a Cb, for proper chord spelling, so I am not so sure this is a
good
idea.

As for closing the tuner window, you can hit ALT-F4 and the tuner
window
will close, if it is the active window.

Susan Tucker wrote:

Greetings!

Attached is my list of requests for BIAB version 11. What do ya'll
think?

Susan Tucker

----
Peter,

Thanks for this opportunity to submit some ideas. I am definitely
interested in voting!

(1) New notation option which might be named "Strict Key Signature
Conformance"

When this option is selected, the key signature is king. Regardless
of
the chords, if a note agrees with the key signature it will not be
displayed as an accidental. The note "B" in the key of Gb would
show as
a dot on the C line (Cb). "F" in the key of F# would show as a dot
on
the E line (E#). D#/Eb in the key of E will always be a dot on the
D
line (D#).

(2) Major bug fix effort

There would be a general "call for bugs". Users can submit every
keyboard shortcut that doesn't work; every style that doesn't
correctly
play Augmented chords or doesn't have the rhythmic basis that is
reported in the style window; all the little things that aren't
quite
right. Magically, they will all go away in version 11.

(3) Ability to close tuner window without using the mouse.

I can open it without mousing; now I want to close it!


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Re: what are those styles in the download bin

David Bailey <dhbailey@...>
 

justbettyboop@yahoo.com wrote:

First of all let me say thanks for posting that zippper full of styles to the download bin here.

Also let me say that I've got my flame suit on so here goes:

I've downloaded those styles but could not find any text reference document to help understand just
exactly why or what style they were created for.

Could the author of those styles gives us some clues.

Some of style names are obvious as to what was intended but some leave you wondering.

There's nothing like complaining when you get something for free.
And there's nothing like trying them out to see what they sound like and
what tempos they might be best (to your ears) at.

You can always rename them to something more meaningful after you have
auditioned them.


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Re: Digest Number 16

David Bailey <dhbailey@...>
 

Regarding #1, in pop music chords from outside the key are very often
used, so if the song were in Gb as you indicate, and the piano part is
supposed to play an Eminor chord, the B had better be notated as a B and
not a Cb, for proper chord spelling, so I am not so sure this is a good
idea.

As for closing the tuner window, you can hit ALT-F4 and the tuner window
will close, if it is the active window.



Susan Tucker wrote:


Greetings!

Attached is my list of requests for BIAB version 11. What do ya'll
think?

Susan Tucker

----
Peter,

Thanks for this opportunity to submit some ideas. I am definitely
interested in voting!

(1) New notation option which might be named "Strict Key Signature
Conformance"

When this option is selected, the key signature is king. Regardless of
the chords, if a note agrees with the key signature it will not be
displayed as an accidental. The note "B" in the key of Gb would show as
a dot on the C line (Cb). "F" in the key of F# would show as a dot on
the E line (E#). D#/Eb in the key of E will always be a dot on the D
line (D#).

(2) Major bug fix effort

There would be a general "call for bugs". Users can submit every
keyboard shortcut that doesn't work; every style that doesn't correctly
play Augmented chords or doesn't have the rhythmic basis that is
reported in the style window; all the little things that aren't quite
right. Magically, they will all go away in version 11.

(3) Ability to close tuner window without using the mouse.

I can open it without mousing; now I want to close it!


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Re: Digest Number 16

heathw@...
 

Couldn't we minimize the tuner in version 8? We can't in version 10.
That is a bad development.
Heath

Susan Tucker wrote:


Greetings!

Attached is my list of requests for BIAB version 11. What do ya'll
think?

Susan Tucker

----
Peter,

Thanks for this opportunity to submit some ideas. I am definitely
interested in voting!

(1) New notation option which might be named "Strict Key Signature
Conformance"

When this option is selected, the key signature is king. Regardless
of
the chords, if a note agrees with the key signature it will not be
displayed as an accidental. The note "B" in the key of Gb would show
as
a dot on the C line (Cb). "F" in the key of F# would show as a dot on
the E line (E#). D#/Eb in the key of E will always be a dot on the D
line (D#).

(2) Major bug fix effort

There would be a general "call for bugs". Users can submit every
keyboard shortcut that doesn't work; every style that doesn't
correctly
play Augmented chords or doesn't have the rhythmic basis that is
reported in the style window; all the little things that aren't quite
right. Magically, they will all go away in version 11.

(3) Ability to close tuner window without using the mouse.

I can open it without mousing; now I want to close it!

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Printing problems with "Jazz Guitar Master Class"

crob@...
 

Hi! I'm having problems printing out the lead sheets for the tunes in
this program. I can print everything else in the program except the
lead sheets. I keep getting an error message that I need several megs
in the windows "Temp" file.....it is EMPTY!! Has anybody else had this
same problem and figured out how to rectify it? Thanks in advance...
Cliff


what are those styles in the download bin

justbettyboop@...
 

First of all let me say thanks for posting that zippper full of styles to the download bin here.

Also let me say that I've got my flame suit on so here goes:

I've downloaded those styles but could not find any text reference document to help understand just
exactly why or what style they were created for.

Could the author of those styles gives us some clues.

Some of style names are obvious as to what was intended but some leave you wondering.

There's nothing like complaining when you get something for free.


Re: MIDI files?

Robert Pickett <robert871@...>
 

Hi Bob. I suggest you look at WinAmp, its a free download and will direct
record your synth as MP3 or convert wav to MP3. I personally like MusicMatch
better, but it is a bit pricey.
Bob P

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob 'Notes' Norton" <norton@nortonmusic.com>
To: <Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] MIDI files?


At 09:42 AM 2/3/01 -0800, you wrote:

Great idea Notes. I would request, however, that you stick to General
Midi
1 format and specify the drum patch carefully.

Most definitely General MIDI. It is as universal as plain text (that
lesson
just learned <g>)


Another idea
would be to post a brief example as an MP3 file on MP3.com.

I guess I'm still in the stone ages. I haven't put enough time into MP3s
to
learn how to make a good one. Between gigging in the band, running Norton
Music, writing new styles, and spending a day a week with my wife, there
just
isn't time. But I plan to get into it this summer when the band business
gets a
little slow down here in Florida.

I know that BiaB can make a .wav file, so I imagine it is just a matter of
putting it through Xing or another ripper.


- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Norton Music is the #1 producer of BiaB after-market products in the
world!
Featuring Power User Styles, Fake Disks, and Arangement Disks.
PLUS ... PG Music products at up to 20% off ... FREE Midi Files ... links
to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and more.


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Re: Config BB with a MOTU multiport device on PC

Steve Ginn <sginn@...>
 

John,

Thanks for the info!

Regards,
Steve

on 2/4/01 1:06 AM, John Lynch at johner@austin.rr.com wrote:

Steve,

The Midi mapper should do what you want actually. I typed in "Mapper" to
the search box on the PG Music home page and came up with a document
entitled:
"Using Multiple MIDI Output Devices With Windows 95"

Direct link is at: http://www.pgmusic.com/033198a.htm

It's also accessible from the PG Music FAQ under the question:
"How do I use multiple modules with a multi-port interface in Windows?"

It seems to explain the process pretty well.

Good luck,
John


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To: Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Config BB with a MOTU multiport device on PC


Is there a program like this? It seems kind of pointless to have a midi
router like the MOTU micro express, if you have to go back and forth to
daisy chain all the synths together to get it to work with BiaB. I noticed
on the selection list (for BiaB out port), there is a choice called Midi
Mapper, but I am not sure where in my system it is pointing to.



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Re: MIDI files?

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 09:42 AM 2/3/01 -0800, you wrote:

Great idea Notes. I would request, however, that you stick to General Midi
1 format and specify the drum patch carefully.

Most definitely General MIDI. It is as universal as plain text (that lesson
just learned <g>)


Another idea
would be to post a brief example as an MP3 file on MP3.com.

I guess I'm still in the stone ages. I haven't put enough time into MP3s to
learn how to make a good one. Between gigging in the band, running Norton
Music, writing new styles, and spending a day a week with my wife, there just
isn't time. But I plan to get into it this summer when the band business gets a
little slow down here in Florida.

I know that BiaB can make a .wav file, so I imagine it is just a matter of
putting it through Xing or another ripper.


- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Norton Music is the #1 producer of BiaB after-market products in the world!
Featuring Power User Styles, Fake Disks, and Arangement Disks.
PLUS ... PG Music products at up to 20% off ... FREE Midi Files ... links
to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and more.


Re: Styles

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 08:48 AM 2/3/01 -0800, "Kenny Danielson" <kendan@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Bob Norton's styles are great even for a musical "throwback" like
me (50's cool jazz and what we used to call "popular music"
back then.

Thanks, Kenny.


- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Norton Music is the #1 producer of BiaB after-market products in the world!
Featuring Power User Styles, Fake Disks, and Arangement Disks.
PLUS ... PG Music products at up to 20% off ... FREE Midi Files ... links
to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and more.


Re: Digest Number 16

Susan Tucker <novice@...>
 

Greetings!

Attached is my list of requests for BIAB version 11. What do ya'll
think?

Susan Tucker

----
Peter,

Thanks for this opportunity to submit some ideas. I am definitely
interested in voting!


(1) New notation option which might be named "Strict Key Signature
Conformance"

When this option is selected, the key signature is king. Regardless of
the chords, if a note agrees with the key signature it will not be
displayed as an accidental. The note "B" in the key of Gb would show as
a dot on the C line (Cb). "F" in the key of F# would show as a dot on
the E line (E#). D#/Eb in the key of E will always be a dot on the D
line (D#).

(2) Major bug fix effort

There would be a general "call for bugs". Users can submit every
keyboard shortcut that doesn't work; every style that doesn't correctly
play Augmented chords or doesn't have the rhythmic basis that is
reported in the style window; all the little things that aren't quite
right. Magically, they will all go away in version 11.

(3) Ability to close tuner window without using the mouse.

I can open it without mousing; now I want to close it!


Re: Config BB with a MOTU multiport device on PC

John Lynch <johner@...>
 

Steve,

The Midi mapper should do what you want actually. I typed in "Mapper" to
the search box on the PG Music home page and came up with a document
entitled:
"Using Multiple MIDI Output Devices With Windows 95"

Direct link is at: http://www.pgmusic.com/033198a.htm

It's also accessible from the PG Music FAQ under the question:
"How do I use multiple modules with a multi-port interface in Windows?"

It seems to explain the process pretty well.

Good luck,
John

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From: Steve Ginn
To: Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Config BB with a MOTU multiport device on PC


Is there a program like this? It seems kind of pointless to have a midi
router like the MOTU micro express, if you have to go back and forth to
daisy chain all the synths together to get it to work with BiaB. I noticed
on the selection list (for BiaB out port), there is a choice called Midi
Mapper, but I am not sure where in my system it is pointing to.


Re: Config BB with a MOTU multiport device on PC

Steve Ginn <sginn@...>
 

Is there a program like this? It seems kind of pointless to have a midi
router like the MOTU micro express, if you have to go back and forth to
daisy chain all the synths together to get it to work with BiaB. I noticed
on the selection list (for BiaB out port), there is a choice called Midi
Mapper, but I am not sure where in my system it is pointing to.

This really is kind of frustrating. On one hand, BiaB tries to be a
significant program for professional use, but on the other hand PG music
seems to want to keep it in the status of amateur only use. Don't get me
wrong, I think it has all the right ideas, but trying to implement it with
pro level gear is very difficult. I would really like to jam/practice along
with it with some great sounds and not have to just settle for the cheesy GM
junk.

Steve

on 2/3/01 8:56 PM, David Bailey at dhbailey@ix.netcom.com wrote:

No, you are not missing anything. Unless you have another program
running along with BiaB which will capture midi output and split it to
the various ports, you can't output BiaB to different midi ports.

You could daisy-chain the midi synths, and make the first synth the
piano synth and set it to receive only on channel 4 (or whatever you
want to set the piano parts to), make the drum synth the second (running
from the midi through or out ports from the piano synth) in the chain
and set it receive only on channel 10 (it may already be set to receive
like that) and then make your other synth the last in the chain and set
it to receive on ALL. You will then have to set channels 4 and 10 not
to play on the last synth in the chain, but you should be able to get
the results you want this way.

Or you could create a midi file and then run it through cakewalk (or
another sequencer) which WILL allow you to set different channels to
different ports.




Steve Ginn wrote:

I am still confused as to how to configure BiaB for use with my MOTU micro
express. I have a piano hooked up to Micro Out 2, a drum machine on Micro
Out 4 and another synth (with GM capability) on Micro Out 1. My desire is
to configure BiaB so that the Piano Parts play on the piano connection, the
drum parts play on my drum machine and all the rest play on the other synth
connected to Micro Out 1, but since BiaB seems to only be able to handle a
single in port and single out port, I am not able to configure to use
multiple ports and hence multiple instruments. Unless I am missing
something. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Steve Ginn


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Re: Config BB with a MOTU multiport device on PC

David Bailey <dhbailey@...>
 

No, you are not missing anything. Unless you have another program
running along with BiaB which will capture midi output and split it to
the various ports, you can't output BiaB to different midi ports.

You could daisy-chain the midi synths, and make the first synth the
piano synth and set it to receive only on channel 4 (or whatever you
want to set the piano parts to), make the drum synth the second (running
from the midi through or out ports from the piano synth) in the chain
and set it receive only on channel 10 (it may already be set to receive
like that) and then make your other synth the last in the chain and set
it to receive on ALL. You will then have to set channels 4 and 10 not
to play on the last synth in the chain, but you should be able to get
the results you want this way.

Or you could create a midi file and then run it through cakewalk (or
another sequencer) which WILL allow you to set different channels to
different ports.




Steve Ginn wrote:


I am still confused as to how to configure BiaB for use with my MOTU micro
express. I have a piano hooked up to Micro Out 2, a drum machine on Micro
Out 4 and another synth (with GM capability) on Micro Out 1. My desire is
to configure BiaB so that the Piano Parts play on the piano connection, the
drum parts play on my drum machine and all the rest play on the other synth
connected to Micro Out 1, but since BiaB seems to only be able to handle a
single in port and single out port, I am not able to configure to use
multiple ports and hence multiple instruments. Unless I am missing
something. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Steve Ginn


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Re: Just 5 minutes

Electronic Music <electronicmusica@...>
 

Thanks to you too.

Thalassa

http://www.mp3.com/thalassa

From: "Robert Pickett" <robert871@home.com>
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Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Just 5 minutes
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:25:01 -0800

Got it . Nice, nice job. Thank you very much.
Bob P
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To: <Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 2:14 PM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Just 5 minutes


Hello :

My name is Thalassa and I'm a musician and I'm promoting
my song "Let's fly". I'm asking you a little of help to get this
song higher at the charts at Mp3.com . For you is only 5 minutes
but for me is a lot of help. So please if you can ...
The only thing that you have to do is going to my page (the url
below) and play the song, is easy and only takes 5 minutes. The song is
in Jean Michel Jarre style and I think that you'll enjoy playing it.
Is the first song of my page. Please help me.

http://www.mp3.com/thalassa

Thanks for your time:
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Re: Just 5 minutes

Robert Pickett <robert871@...>
 

Got it . Nice, nice job. Thank you very much.
Bob P

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Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 2:14 PM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Just 5 minutes


Hello :

My name is Thalassa and I'm a musician and I'm promoting
my song "Let's fly". I'm asking you a little of help to get this
song higher at the charts at Mp3.com . For you is only 5 minutes
but for me is a lot of help. So please if you can ...
The only thing that you have to do is going to my page (the url
below) and play the song, is easy and only takes 5 minutes. The song is
in Jean Michel Jarre style and I think that you'll enjoy playing it.
Is the first song of my page. Please help me.

http://www.mp3.com/thalassa

Thanks for your time:
Thalassa


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Config BB with a MOTU multiport device on PC

Steve Ginn <sginn@...>
 

I am still confused as to how to configure BiaB for use with my MOTU micro
express. I have a piano hooked up to Micro Out 2, a drum machine on Micro
Out 4 and another synth (with GM capability) on Micro Out 1. My desire is
to configure BiaB so that the Piano Parts play on the piano connection, the
drum parts play on my drum machine and all the rest play on the other synth
connected to Micro Out 1, but since BiaB seems to only be able to handle a
single in port and single out port, I am not able to configure to use
multiple ports and hence multiple instruments. Unless I am missing
something. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Steve Ginn


Just 5 minutes

Electronic Music <electronicmusica@...>
 

Hello :

My name is Thalassa and I'm a musician and I'm promoting
my song "Let's fly". I'm asking you a little of help to get this
song higher at the charts at Mp3.com . For you is only 5 minutes
but for me is a lot of help. So please if you can ...
The only thing that you have to do is going to my page (the url
below) and play the song, is easy and only takes 5 minutes. The song is
in Jean Michel Jarre style and I think that you'll enjoy playing it.
Is the first song of my page. Please help me.

http://www.mp3.com/thalassa

Thanks for your time:
Thalassa


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Re: Band-in-a-Box 11 Wish List

Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@...>
 

Folks

From Peter Gannon:

http://www.pgmusic.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000522.html

" Hi,
We're assembling the feature list for Band-in-a-Box 11. We'll be
combing through the wish lists, and then preparing an Excel
spreadsheet for interested to users to vote on each feature's
desirability on a scale of 0-10.

--------------
But first, if anyone has a feature list that they'd like to see in
Band-in-a-Box 11, please submit it me at pgannon@pgmusic.com.
--------------

It could be anything from 1 feature, to a list of many features.
Ideally each feature is described by a brief title, followed by a 1-5
line paragraph about what the feature would do, and how it might
work, and any other 'selling feature' you might have about it.
For example, if the idea is "1st and 2nd endings" - you might
elaborate by saying if you expected this to work in printout only, or
throughout the program etc.

Don't combine features into the same sentence, have a separate
paragrah for each feature request.

The most common reason that a good idea for a feature ends up NOT
being implemented, is when its too hard to implement, (or when we
can't figure out how to implement it easily), so the clearer the
description of what you want, the better.

Any ideas submitted must not be propietary, there is no compensation
of any kind for submitting ideas or feature requests. So by
submitting it, you are agreeing that we can use the feature or idea
freely without any compensation or other consideration to you for
thinking it up...


Please submit them up to Feb. 8, 2001.
Put them in simple .txt format, with 1 paragraph per feature request.

We'll then assemble an .xls spreadsheet with all of the ideas, and
let anyone who'se interested vote on them.


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Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc."


Re: MIDI files?

Robert Pickett <robert871@...>
 

Great idea Notes. I would request, however, that you stick to General Midi
1 format and specify the drum patch carefully. I have gotten some terrible
MIDIs that came out pretty well when I re-did the drum track. Another idea
would be to post a brief example as an MP3 file on MP3.com.
Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob 'Notes' Norton" <norton@nortonmusic.com>
To: <Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 7:46 AM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] MIDI files?


Hi Alisdair and all,

I was wondering if posting MIDI files made with Band-in-a-Box is OK in
this
group.

Let me explain - - -

I was thinking about posting a few BiaB song (.sgu) files. Since many of
the songs I intend to post require a particular style (sometimes mine,
sometimes PG's and sometimes Roy Hawkesford's) and since the song wouldn't
sound the same with a different style, I have been timid to post them.

It has been my experience in creating my fake disks that for some
particular songs, one style might sound good and another horrid. That
horrid sounding style might sound great in a different song. There seems
to
be a compatibility (or non-compatibility) between certain styles and
certain chord movements. I don't really know why this is, but I guess it
has something to do with the way BiaB uses voice leading to create the
inversions of the chords being played.

My idea is to zip a song and MIDI file together. That way, when you
unzipped the file, you would have the song (.sgu) and the MIDI (.mid) file
in the same package. If you did not have the style I used, you could
listen
to the MIDI file to hear what I had in mind. Then if you had a similar
style, you could use the style that sounds closest to what I had in mind.

This would also fit in with the educational uses of the description of
this
group. By comparing the MIDI file using a particular style and other style
you might have, you will learn more about how flexible the BiaB program is
and what some of the limitations of the program are.

If this is OK with Alisdair (who created the group) and the other group
members, I will post them (as time permits). If not, that is OK with me.


- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

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