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repository, was RE: New Member Introduction

M. Steven Ginn <sginn@...>
 

Never mind. I spoke too soon. I guess I should have read the previous
messages first so I would find the nice repository that has already been
set up!

Thanks,

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: M. Steven Ginn [mailto:sginn@airmail.net]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:32 AM
To: Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Band-in-a-Box] New Member Introduction


It seems to me that a repository for songs that people have put into
BIAB would be helpful. Just a thought ...

Steve

also I'm collecting a song repertoire in px format ...
wonderful every musician should have it ...


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Setting up synths?

M. Steven Ginn <sginn@...>
 

I have a couple of quick questions ...

first, is there any way to add a new synth to the selection list? I am
interested in adding some of my own synths to use, such as the Proteus
2000 and the JV1010.

Is there a way to set up BIAB so that all rythm is handled by a
dedicated drum machine? I have the Boss DR-770. It would be nice if
BIAB could trigger a preset in the DR-770 according to the style chosen
in BIAB.

Thanks,

Steve Ginn


Moanin

jimlil00@...
 

Any have a BIB file for Art Blakey's Moanin?
I have seen various changes for this, but it never seems correct.
Perhaps the tune is in the Files under M songs?
Thanks, and by the way Alisdair, this is another great idea!

I have had BIB for about two yeas and my playing has improved
dramatically. Whenever I am bored or uninspired I let the soliost
create a solo and I learn it.


new member

simon.hamelink@...
 

Hello,

As a new member of this group, i like introduce myself


Music Book Sources

alisdair@...
 

If you are ever looking for music sources a useful resource is Andy
Robinson's Fake Book Index:

http://www.seventhstring.co.uk/fbindex.html

It is a search page which enables you to find (mostly jazz) tunes
in fake books. It has the indexes of (currently) 26 fake books and
you simply type all or part of the title you are looking for and
hit "Search", and it tells you which books contain this title. You
can tell it which books to search (for instance, to search just the
books you own) and you can have it remember your book list for next
time you visit.

---alisdair

--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., jimlil00@e... wrote:
Any have a BIB file for Art Blakey's Moanin?
I have seen various changes for this, but it never seems correct.
Perhaps the tune is in the Files under M songs?
Thanks, and by the way Alisdair, this is another great idea!

I have had BIB for about two yeas and my playing has improved
dramatically. Whenever I am bored or uninspired I let the soliost
create a solo and I learn it.


Re: Jazz Soloist (was Re: Moanin)

John Lynch <johner@...>
 

Well, this is not specifically BIAB-related, but if you like learning solos
you might also look at PG Music's "The Jazz Soloist", if you haven't
already. It's basically Midi performances of soloing over different common
chord progressions, from blues to standards. I think Miles Black, who's
done a bunch of other PG stuff including the excellent "Jazz Pianist
Masterclass", performs the solos. Anyway, they're easier to pick up by ear
than records since they're Midi and you can isolate, slow down, etc., even
print out if you get stuck, but they are live, complete performances, which
I think gives them much more coherence than the BIAB-generated solos, which
tend to sound to me like a bunch of licks strung together. Info and example
at http://www.pgmusic.com/jazsolo.htm .

Anyway, just a thought.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: jimlil00@earthlink.net
To: Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:14 PM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Moanin

I have had BIB for about two yeas and my playing has improved
dramatically. Whenever I am bored or uninspired I let the soliost
create a solo and I learn it.


Having trouble

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

Ever since Yahoo took over, I'm having trouble signing on. I am testing to
see if I can post anyway.

Is anybody else having trouble?


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

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Master Jazz Guitar Solos (was Re: Jazz Soloist )

alisdair@...
 

Hi John

Yes, the Jazz Soloist series is great for learning solos and the
solos are better than the ones auto generated by BIAB. Still the ones
generated by BIAB are good too and a very useful learning tool for
those working on particular songs. Which brings me to another
question.

PG Music abandoned the software program "The Jazz Guitarist" which
was launced 1992/3 in favour of the new "Master Jazz Guitar Solos"
and "Jazz Guitar Master Class". I believe the main reason why they
abandoned it was because the program contained arrangements by Oliver
Gannon of named standards which they then got into difficulty because
of copyright reasons. Since then all the programs have been released
with original tunes, based on standard harmonies, so called
contrafacts. For Example:

Master Jazz Guitarist
#38 - Roamin' based on "Have You Met Miss Jones"

Has anyone gone through these programs and worked out what the
original tunes are that they are based on ? I think it would be great
if we could put a list together of the tunes.

---alisdair

--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., "John Lynch" <johner@a...> wrote:
Well, this is not specifically BIAB-related, but if you like
learning solos
you might also look at PG Music's "The Jazz Soloist", if you haven't
already. It's basically Midi performances of soloing over
different common
chord progressions, from blues to standards. I think Miles Black,
who's
done a bunch of other PG stuff including the excellent "Jazz Pianist
Masterclass", performs the solos. Anyway, they're easier to pick
up by ear
than records since they're Midi and you can isolate, slow down,
etc., even
print out if you get stuck, but they are live, complete
performances, which
I think gives them much more coherence than the BIAB-generated
solos, which
tend to sound to me like a bunch of licks strung together. Info and
example
at http://www.pgmusic.com/jazsolo.htm .

Anyway, just a thought.

John


----- Original Message -----
From: jimlil00@e...
To: Band-in-a-Box@y...
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:14 PM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Moanin

I have had BIB for about two yeas and my playing has improved
dramatically. Whenever I am bored or uninspired I let the soliost
create a solo and I learn it.


Re: Having trouble

alisdair@...
 

Hi Bob

Well your post came through OK. I've spent quite sometime on this
conversion over the last week and hope there is not too much trouble.
The database has been on and offline all day, but hope these are just
teething troubles. If you are getting problems check out Yahoo's
Group Help page:

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/index.html

Also when accessing the group go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Band-in-a-Box

Hope this settles down soon!

---alisdair

--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., "Bob 'Notes' Norton" <norton@n...> wrote:
Ever since Yahoo took over, I'm having trouble signing on. I am
testing to
see if I can post anyway.

Is anybody else having trouble?


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@n...
http://www.nortonmusic.com

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to
MIDI
file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web
... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of
interest to musicians!!!


Re: Having trouble

David Bailey <dhbailey@...>
 

Your post came through loud and clear to the list, but I am responding
both on-list and off-list so you can know for sure.

I have had no problems so far, but I haven't gone to the pages since the
change, simply gotten the messages from the list.

Good luck!
David




Bob 'Notes' Norton wrote:


Ever since Yahoo took over, I'm having trouble signing on. I am testing to
see if I can post anyway.

Is anybody else having trouble?

Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to MIDI
file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from the web
... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of
interest to musicians!!!

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David H. Bailey
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Re: Having trouble

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 10:51 PM 1/26/01 +0000, alisdair@alisdair.com wrote:


Well your post came through OK. I've spent quite sometime on this
conversion over the last week and hope there is not too much trouble.


I think I'm back in the game now. I needed to make a new Yahoo ID and a Yahoo
password.

The database has been on and offline all day,
I kept getting error messages when I tried, perhaps that was the problem.

I was trying to help a friend who joined to select the type of e-mail he wanted
to receive when I noticed I couldn't sign in anymore. I went through the
labyrinth of screens, sometimes I am sure making the wrong choices, ended up
with two e-mail address and probably twice as many passwords, but finally I
believe it is straightened out.

I am assuming the error pages and server busy or server not found messages were
just the effect of on and offline problem. It did confuse the heck out of me.
But then, I needed a little excitement in my life today.

I think all is well.

And it is good to see this group growing quickly.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to MIDI
file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from the web
... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of
interest to musicians!!!


Re: Setting up synths?

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 11:43 AM 1/26/01 -0600, "M. Steven Ginn" wrote:
I have a couple of quick questions ...

first, is there any way to add a new synth to the selection list? ... [SNIP]

In the PC version go to "Opt." in the menu bar

When the drop down menu appears, click on either:
Make A Patch Map (Basic)
or
Make A Patch Map (Advanced)

The dialog boxes are pretty self explanatory.

Is there a way to set up BIAB so that all rythm is handled by a
dedicated drum machine?  I have the Boss DR-770.  It would be nice if
BIAB could trigger a preset in the DR-770 according to the style chosen
in BIAB.

This one could be accomplished but I don't know if it would be easy (nor if you really want to do that).

I suspect (I haven't tried this) that you could assign patch numbers to the song for rhythm numbers in the drum machine, and then mute the BiaB drums by clicking on the name Drums while the song is playing.

That doesn't directly answer your second question though, because to me it would seem like a pain in the @$%

Why might you not want to do this?  The drums in the BiaB styles have various rolls and other rhythmic devices that compliment the styles (I know the styles I write definitely do) and the style will not sound the same (possibly not as good) if you were using the comp parts from BiaB and the drum pattern from another drum machine.

It would work if you needed it for recording purposes, but I wouldn't want to do that on a day by day basis.

What I would do is use the Band-in-a-Box rhythms but use my drum machine as the sound module for the drums.

You can make a drum patch map in the same way you made the patch map.

Just make sure your drum machine is on the same MIDI channel as BIAB's (default is 10 but this can be changed  Opt. -> MIDI Channels, options

If it were me and if it was practical, I'd change the drum numbers of my drum machine to emulate General MIDI drum notes.

I hope this helped.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...

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Re: Having trouble

alisdair@...
 

Hi Bob

Glad to see you back. Yes I too found it confusing. All the
flexibility with having a Yahoo ID, Profile IDs and associating them
with email accounts etc. Nice stuff, but I had to go back and do a
little tidying up once I understood the concept!

---alisdair


--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., "Bob 'Notes' Norton" <norton@n...> wrote:
At 10:51 PM 1/26/01 +0000, alisdair@a... wrote:


Well your post came through OK. I've spent quite sometime on this
conversion over the last week and hope there is not too much
trouble.



I think I'm back in the game now. I needed to make a new Yahoo ID
and a Yahoo
password.

The database has been on and offline all day,
I kept getting error messages when I tried, perhaps that was the
problem.

I was trying to help a friend who joined to select the type of e-
mail he wanted
to receive when I noticed I couldn't sign in anymore. I went
through the
labyrinth of screens, sometimes I am sure making the wrong choices,
ended up
with two e-mail address and probably twice as many passwords, but
finally I
believe it is straightened out.

I am assuming the error pages and server busy or server not found
messages were
just the effect of on and offline problem. It did confuse the heck
out of me.
But then, I needed a little excitement in my life today.

I think all is well.

And it is good to see this group growing quickly.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@n...
http://www.nortonmusic.com

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to
MIDI
file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web
... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of
interest to musicians!!!


Re: Music Book Sources

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 10:14 PM 1/26/01 +0000, alisdair@... wrote:
If you are ever looking for music sources a useful resource is Andy
Robinson's Fake Book Index:

http://www.seventhstring.co.uk/fbindex.html

It is a search page which enables you to find (mostly jazz) tunes
in fake books.

I also can get almost any Fake book published. I also will offer this discount:

Purchase 1 book, your discount is 10% *
Purchase 2 books, your discount is 15% *
Purchase 3 or more books, your discount is 20% *

   * Plus shipping and insurance

If you are in the UK I suggest you use the above link, as shipping overseas can often cost more than the value of the book (I just shipped a book to the Netherlands, the book cost $35 and UPS charged $60, the Post office would have charged about $30 but the customer wanted UPS)

If you can find the book in your own country, or at least in your own continent, that would be the best way to do. International and especially overseas shipping costs are very high. If you cannot get the book in your own country and want to go the expensive shipping costs, I will be glad to do what I can.

If you are in the USA, you can save money by going through me (Norton Music). I'll add to the discounted book price, the shipping and insurance fee (plus tax if you live in Florida). In the USA, I can send books for "Book Rate" or "Bound Printed Matter" via the US Postal service, often for less than $3.00 for up to 4 pounds of books.

If you only want one book and it doesn't cost too much, it might be cheapest to go to your local music store. Shipping can often offset the discount I offer for one music book. (for example if the book is $19.95, I'll sell it to you for $17.95 but the shipping will be $2.50.) If you want an expensive book ($30 and up) or more than one book, it might be cheaper to go through me.

Check out http://www.nortonmusic.com and then scroll down to Item 3.02 in the table of contents -- Norton's M.O.M. (Mail Order Music). Even if your desired book is not listed there, you can send me the Title, Author and Publisher and I can get it.

Please excuse the self serving plug, but I think I can save other members of this group some money. I hope I have represented the Non-Norton Music options fairly and gave you enough information to make a better decision, even if that means not buying from me.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...

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New Member Introduction

John A Callighan III <jcallighan@...>
 

John Callighan
I have been a BIAB user since version 1. I currently have 8694 files by BB
Finder but I estimate 30% to 40% duplicates. Currently using Version 9.0c

I am retired and now spend a lot of time on music, woodworking, golf and
choir.

Instruments:
Tenor, Alto, and Soprano Saxophone.
Yamaha Wx-5 wind synth with a VL-70m Tone Generator
TECH 244 4 track Tape recorder

Currently working on learning composition and improvisation.


Re: Introduction

Lee K. Muller
 

Aloha Robert, sounds like you're from Hawaii.  What part?
 
Lee Muller
Aiea, HI

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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Introduction

Hi.  I am a new member, and I must say the sign up was about as bad as it gets, so I hope I am going to get emails from you all now.
Aloha from one who has used BIaB since BiaB 1 on the old Atari.
Bob P


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Introduction

Robert Pickett <robert871@...>
 

Hi.  I am a new member, and I must say the sign up was about as bad as it gets, so I hope I am going to get emails from you all now.
Aloha from one who has used BIaB since BiaB 1 on the old Atari.
Bob P


Question on files

Robert Pickett <robert871@...>
 

 
Hello.  I have a question relating to posting files.  I notice that we have a great library of files, and I downloaded them.  Thanks to whoever assembled them. 
Apparently, members can upload files to this library for other members to share.  However, I am a bit confused on copyright law.  I know that you cannot copyright a chord progression, and that files I make with BiaB are my own. However, it is the song melody that concerns me. If I download a file with melody from the site library and I know the melody is copyrighted, and if I modify the file but not the melody,  can I re-post my version with melody? What about files loaded from the other web sites?
 
I guess my basic question is:  How do I handle melodies when posting?
Bob P
 
 
 
 
 


New member

James Sievers <jim_sievers_2000@...>
 

I just joined having had BIAB for 10 months now. I
find it an invaluable tool for creation, practise,
etc. I'm glad there now exists a forum away from PG
Music, no disrespect to them, but its good to have an
independent train of thought so to speak.
Jim

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Re: Question on files

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 11:23 PM 1/26/01 -0800, "Robert Pickett" wrote:
 If I download a file with melody from the site library and I know the melody is copyrighted, and if I modify the file but not the melody,  can I re-post my version with melody? What about files loaded from the other web sites?

As far as I know (disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and not qualified to give legal advice) you cannot use a copyrighted melody in any way shape or form without permission of the copyright holder.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of interest to musicians!!!

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