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Re: How do they do it?

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 06:47 PM 1/24/01 +0000, danadler@... wrote:

Can 3rd parties create a
new 'soloist'?

According to PG music, the answer is "No"

If anyone ever figures out how, I also would be interested.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
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Thanks

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 07:34 PM 1/24/01 +0000, "Alisdair MacRae Birch" wrote:

 I started this group up as I have been
using BIAB since the very early days, for practicing, producing lead
sheets and in my teaching. During my teaching, people would ask me
how could they get files, learn more about BIAB etc, so in the end I
set up this group. My intention is not to replace the excellent
support forum that PG Music have, but to provide a forum where users
of BIAB, can get to know one another and exchange files etc.

Hi Alisdair,

Thank you very much for starting this. I am sure a large investment of time was required and I suspect the maintenance will also take some time.

Your work is appreciated.



Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of interest to musicians!!!


New Member Introduction

Melvin (Mel) Webb
 

Hi, everyone,
I am a new member as of this date. My name is Mel Webb and I have
been a BIAB user for the past 12-13 years,in fact, way back when BIAB
was only made for the Atari computer and it only had SGU files and 3
instruments. It has been fun to grow with the program, to watch it
grow from the Atari to the PC and Mac. And more specifically to the
inclusion of 7 instruments and MGU files. I presently use the latest
version 10.
I am 73 yrs of age now, and began using BIAB when I was 60. I am
completely self taught in the use of a PC computer, and I taught
myself how to use and understand the BIAB music program. I am not a
pro musician, I don't play any type of instrument, nor do I know how
to read a music sheet. I have encouraged about 50 people in the last
5 years to purchase the BIAB program, and have subsequently taught at
least a dozen people, in at least the same number of different
countries (via eamil!) on how to use the program. I have an Ensoniq
SQ2 keyboard that I have managed to 'knuckle' out some tunes of my
own with one hand! Other than that, I mainly arrange other MGU files
of pop tunes to my own liking, and I use the 'Melodist' feature in
BIAB to create my own compositions on my home page at
http://kmelmidimusic.com
I have about 700 of my midi files on my home site if anyone cares to
visit and listen to my stuff.
Way back when I first started, I found Bob 'Notes' Norton's ad in the
back of the Electronic Musician magazine advertising his own style
creations for the BIAB program as a 3rd party creator. I sent for the
style disks that he had at the time, and subsequently we became good
friends. Bob encouraged me to join the AOL online service so that we
could communicate via email. He also introduced me to BIAB. I started
making midi files as soon as I taught myself how to use the program.
I would record my midi files on audio tape and mail them to Bob for
his expert opinon. It was Bob's help and encouragement that piqued my
interest in learning all I could with my new 'toy'. I was hooked, I
decided that it was fun to make music with a computer, and so I
applied myself full bore and have never regretted a minute of it. I
guess it was about 5 years later when Bob asked me to be a beta
tester for the new styles that he was creating. I was thrilled that a
pro musician had that much confidence in me to trust my input in
helping ( as a user ) to test the files before he offered them for
sale. We have since, become the best of friends because of his
untiring help to me. We have never in all of those years met
personaly, but we feel as though we have. Anyone associated with Bob,
is fortunate to have him as friend.( that includes his wife Leilani
too )
Well, that should be enough about me for this intro. If anyone cares
to learn more about me and listen to my midi files, and view the
photos of my equipment that I use, (also visit my Tribute site to
Frank Sinatra) ( I am also the Easy Listening Director at the Midi
Consortium )you can link to any of those sites from my home page.
Enjoy the music, and thank you PG Music for thee best music program
in the world, that allows non pro's like me, the opportunity to
create music.

Regards,
Mel Webb


BIAB needs more support for lead sheet structure

Richard Whitehouse <rsw@...>
 

Hi, I'm Richard Whitehouse

I just joined. I use BIAB sometimes to practice with. I noticed Tony
Sheppard below said he uses it to make lead sheets. I've tried this, and
I found it unsatisfactory, becuase BIAB does not have enough support for
things like intros, 1st and 2nd endings, Dal Signas, Codas, and so on.
All you get is an intro and a coda.

I've written several times to the creators of BIAB asking them to improve
this aspect of BIAB, but I get ignored. They are more interesting in
adding other kinds of bells and whistles.

If they added these features, it would make BIAB an absolutely killer tool
for musicians. As it stands, it's a good tool, but not killer.

Does anyone agree with me?

Richard Whitehouse

Hi,
I' m Tony Sheppard. I play trombone, keyboards and Bass.
I've been using BIAB for about 2 years. to create lead sheets for small
jazz
ensembles and commercial bands which I run.
I also run a Youth Jazz Orchestra..and envisage creating some Big Band
scores
for this when time is available. Any tips welcome.!!
visit me at


Re: BIAB needs more support for lead sheet struct ure

Peter Amey <pna@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Whitehouse [mailto:rsw@accessv.com]
Sent: 25 January 2001 13:07
To: Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] BIAB needs more support for lead sheet
structure


Hi, I'm Richard Whitehouse

I just joined. I use BIAB sometimes to practice with. I
noticed Tony
Sheppard below said he uses it to make lead sheets. I've
tried this, and
I found it unsatisfactory, becuase BIAB does not have enough
support for
things like intros, 1st and 2nd endings, Dal Signas, Codas,
and so on.
All you get is an intro and a coda.
I would second this. I often use the program to produce lead sheets and
then find it frustrating to have to transfer everything to some other
notation program to print out.

A related problem may have a solution I haven't yet found: BIAB8 doesn't
seem to be able to print triplets and 16th notes at the same time. In
'notation options' I can select swing feel but don't get the 16th notes or
desecledt it and not get the triplets. I half recall an earlier version
having other resolution options. Since I have just done a transcription of
Sonny Rollins "Decision" which is swing feel with some semi-quavers in it, I
need this feature rather a lot.



Peter




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New member introduction

Nigel Stanley <nstanley@...>
 

This could be a useful group. My few words of introduction:

I've had BIAB ever since it came out on the Atari - I hate to think of the cost of upgrades through to v10.

I've used it for all kinds of things over that time. My instrument is the bass, and I used BIAB as a key practice aid in learning to play walking bass for jazz, and still use it for practicing soloing.

My main use now is for jazz arranging. For example for a Christmas gig, I found a bunch of Christmas songs on the web. Some I just printed out leadsheets in C Bb and Eb, others I reharmonised. God Rest Ye Merry Genetlemen as a bossa is surprisingly good!

I also use it as an aid for doing big band arrangements and compositions. As someone was asking about doing big band stuff, perhaps it would be interesting to hear how I do it.

If it's an arrangement I usually have the head from one of the web downloads I have done over the years. One can play around with reharmonising, and different feels till it sounds good. If it's an original I will also start with getting the main theme into BIAB.

I then cut and paste into Cakewalk, where I do the actual arrangements. I sometime use the BIAB harmonies, but find that you have to go through them carefully to get the ranges and voice leading right, so often don't. I often play around with the melodist and soloist features - not to use the whole part but often there's an interesting idea, just a 3 note motif that can set off more ideas.

Once I've got it right in Cakewalk I then output to a notation programme to print out parts.

I'm currently working on Giant Steps, with a brazilian rhythm to start with, then into swing for a sax soli, then some solos. The next section then changes the harmony on the main theme to melodic minor using some fairly dissonant extensions. Then back to the proper changes with stop time and drum fills and then back to the brazilian feel, for restatements.

It all feels a bit like cheating at times as BIAB gives so much assistance with this whole process. It also helps to have a good sound card. I use a Yamaha SW1000XG, as everything can sound muddy with smaller sample sets.

Anyway, enough about me!

Nigel Stanley
London
UK

 


Re: BIAB needs more support for lead sheet structure

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 08:06 AM 1/25/01 -0500, Richard Whitehouse wrote:

I noticed Tony
Sheppard below said he uses it to make lead sheets.   I've tried this, and
I found it unsatisfactory, becuase BIAB does not have enough support for
things like intros, 1st and 2nd endings, Dal Signas, Codas, and so on.
All you get is an intro and a coda.

[SNIP]

If they added these features, it would make BIAB an absolutely killer tool
for musicians.  As it stands, it's a good tool, but not killer.

It would be a great feature! I would love it.

I am not sure it would be so easy to do for the extremely low price that PG Music sells BiaB for.

Music score writing programs are both pretty computer intensive and labor intensive. Even the best programs like Finale and Encore require the human to correct a lot of things like triplets, dotted eighth and sixteenths notes, etc.. If the MIDI file is absolutely quantized before it goes into the music score program, it comes out well, but quantized music is inappropriate for all but a few dance music types.

Even expensive ($400 and up) sequencing programs like Cakewalk and Cubase have very limited music notation features. A little better than BiaB, but still inadequate for writing scores and barely adequate for lead sheet charts.

I have an old copy of Encore (version 4) that fills my score writing needs. I export the MIDI file from Band-in-a-Box, I usually tweak it in a sequencer (Master Tracks Pro from G-Vox is my favorite) and then import the file into Encore. There I can add the repeat signs, codas, dynamic markings, ornament markings (trills, mordents, etc.), and whatever else the score needs.

A good music copyist program also allows you to shift the spacing of the notes, number of measures per line, size of the measures, and so on.

So although I consider Band-in-a-Box an excellent, essential tool, it is not a do-all tool.

I find that I need three music programs (1) Band-in-a-Box, (2) A good sequencer --I use Master Tracks Pro (not to be confused with Power Tracks Pro) and Cakewalk, and (3) a music copyist program -- I use Encore.

So although I wholeheartedly agree with you, I don't foresee it happening any time soon.

And as far as those extra whistles and bells, like the picture of the drum kit "playing", they don't do a thing for me, but I am sure they tickle somebody else.



Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
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Re: BIAB needs more support for lead sheet structure

Robert Godkin <godkinr@...>
 

I've been a BIAB user for as long as it has been out pretty well. For the
bucks, the basic program cannot be beaten. There are features in BIAB that I
would like and maybe come some day but I'm not holding my breath for a score
program. Just to darn expensive to develop, I am sure.

When I arrange music for our band using BIAB, I copy my song to a mid file
which might included a 4 bar intro and the ending. I try to use as many of
the great features BIAB has to offer such as the harmonies and soloist if it
is required for what I'm working on. In PowerTracks Pro I make as many easy
corrections as I can and remove any tracks I'm not using. Sometimes I'll save
tracks as separate mid file. I'll then take the track into my notation
package called MusicTime Deluxe. Our band feels that this is a good notation
package for under $100 bucks with most of the features we need and it was easy
to learn. In MTD I add repeat signs, codas, titles, dressup, etc. I have to
add the chord symbols into MTD. I would really like to be able to pick the
chords up from BIAB/PTP, but for under $100!.
It works fine for our band and really isn't that time consuming. I would only
do this though, because of the harmonies and it is not the normal method for
me to entering data into score format.
BIAB is great for singers also. Lots of times we have had a guest singer and
guess what? The lead sheet in the singers key is PG's BIAB. Boy, remember
the old days when weird key changes were necessary for singers. Now it's just
a printer away.

By the way, I already believe BIAB is a killer tool. Besides what I described
above, I use it to developing my successful one-man-band thing, to develop
songs to be played in our progressive jazz and dixieland jazz bands and most
importantly, to practice. Nothing, but nothing, IMO, beats BIAB for
practice. IT IS A KILLER TOOL already.
Oh, and also, my grand kids have one super time playing the drums on the
screen. That makes it a killer in itself.


If they added these features, it would make BIAB an absolutely killer tool
for musicians. As it stands, it's a good tool, but not killer.

Does anyone agree with me?

Richard Whitehouse


Lead Sheets..notation support

Ashepjazz@...
 

From Tony Sheppard
Yes, like Peter,  I was frustrated at not being able to notate repeats and
1st and 2nd time bars...but you learn to live with it and edit out as needed,
then enter repeats signs by hand, I find I have still saved an enormous
amount of time compared to writing out the whole thing by hand ...and the
copies are quite readable!...Sometimes I dump it into Finale but its a pain
having to re-enter chord symbols or Lyrics.
Tony Sheppard


Re: BIAB needs more support for lead sheet struct ure

Nigel Stanley <nstanley@...>
 

Of course it would be useful to have a few more notation features, and as I described in an earlier post I take BIAB files via midi into Cakewalk and notation packages.

But for simple lead sheets I sometimes use the low tech solution of editing the original and then writing on the lead sheets.

For example if there's first and second time bars, then you can always delete the repeated bars, so that the second time bars appear straight after the first time bars and write in the repeat signs.

It's not ideal, but BIAB would lose its point if it became a fully fledged notation programme.

Better would be for notation programmes to be able to read BIAB files in a way that you don't have to enter the chord names by hand.

You can output block chords from BIAB as part of a midi file. I guess this feature was originally for pitch shifting harmonisers, but some notation programmes can add chord names automatically from chords. I suspect it's only the high end programmes that can do this but Sibelius does it well. Try the demo! Cakewalk can analyse chords with a midi plug in, but doesn't write them from this - a pretty useless feature IMHO.

Nigel






Re: BIAB needs more support for lead sheet structure

Bob Roetker
 

Absolutely - I agree 100%. I also have asked PG Music several times for
these same things but they don't seem to be able to add these features or
are not interested in adding more print functionality. All I ever do is lead
sheets and if BIAB would improve the print functionality I would never need
any other music tool.

Bob Roetker www.bobroetker.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Whitehouse" <rsw@accessv.com>
To: <Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 8:08 AM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] BIAB needs more support for lead sheet structure


Hi, I'm Richard Whitehouse

I just joined. I use BIAB sometimes to practice with. I noticed Tony
Sheppard below said he uses it to make lead sheets. I've tried this, and
I found it unsatisfactory, becuase BIAB does not have enough support for
things like intros, 1st and 2nd endings, Dal Signas, Codas, and so on.
All you get is an intro and a coda.

I've written several times to the creators of BIAB asking them to improve
this aspect of BIAB, but I get ignored. They are more interesting in
adding other kinds of bells and whistles.

If they added these features, it would make BIAB an absolutely killer tool
for musicians. As it stands, it's a good tool, but not killer.

Does anyone agree with me?

Richard Whitehouse

Hi,
I' m Tony Sheppard. I play trombone, keyboards and Bass.
I've been using BIAB for about 2 years. to create lead sheets for small
jazz
ensembles and commercial bands which I run.
I also run a Youth Jazz Orchestra..and envisage creating some Big Band
scores
for this when time is available. Any tips welcome.!!
visit me at



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Re: BIAB needs more support for lead sheet structure

Bob Roetker
 

Can you use the clean PG Music text font with MusicTime Deluxe?

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Godkin" <godkinr@sympatico.ca>
To: <Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] BIAB needs more support for lead sheet
structure


I've been a BIAB user for as long as it has been out pretty well. For the
bucks, the basic program cannot be beaten. There are features in BIAB
that I
would like and maybe come some day but I'm not holding my breath for a
score
program. Just to darn expensive to develop, I am sure.

When I arrange music for our band using BIAB, I copy my song to a mid
file
which might included a 4 bar intro and the ending. I try to use as many
of
the great features BIAB has to offer such as the harmonies and soloist if
it
is required for what I'm working on. In PowerTracks Pro I make as many
easy
corrections as I can and remove any tracks I'm not using. Sometimes I'll
save
tracks as separate mid file. I'll then take the track into my notation
package called MusicTime Deluxe. Our band feels that this is a good
notation
package for under $100 bucks with most of the features we need and it was
easy
to learn. In MTD I add repeat signs, codas, titles, dressup, etc. I have
to
add the chord symbols into MTD. I would really like to be able to pick
the
chords up from BIAB/PTP, but for under $100!.
It works fine for our band and really isn't that time consuming. I would
only
do this though, because of the harmonies and it is not the normal method
for
me to entering data into score format.
BIAB is great for singers also. Lots of times we have had a guest singer
and
guess what? The lead sheet in the singers key is PG's BIAB. Boy,
remember
the old days when weird key changes were necessary for singers. Now it's
just
a printer away.

By the way, I already believe BIAB is a killer tool. Besides what I
described
above, I use it to developing my successful one-man-band thing, to develop
songs to be played in our progressive jazz and dixieland jazz bands and
most
importantly, to practice. Nothing, but nothing, IMO, beats BIAB for
practice. IT IS A KILLER TOOL already.
Oh, and also, my grand kids have one super time playing the drums on the
screen. That makes it a killer in itself.


If they added these features, it would make BIAB an absolutely killer
tool
for musicians. As it stands, it's a good tool, but not killer.

Does anyone agree with me?

Richard Whitehouse

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Re: Lead Sheets..notation support

Bob Roetker
 

True, you can add the 1st & 2nd endings by hand but it loses some of the professional appearancce that makes it so attractive in the first place. Outputting the file to a GOOD bitmap and editing it in a paint program might be the solution but in BIAB V.10 the output to graphics files is pretty bad. Not really usable at all. At least give us that PG Music.
 
Bob

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 5:15 PM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Lead Sheets..notation support

From Tony Sheppard
Yes, like Peter,  I was frustrated at not being able to notate repeats and
1st and 2nd time bars...but you learn to live with it and edit out as needed,
then enter repeats signs by hand, I find I have still saved an enormous
amount of time compared to writing out the whole thing by hand ...and the
copies are quite readable!...Sometimes I dump it into Finale but its a pain
having to re-enter chord symbols or Lyrics.
Tony Sheppard

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Re: Lead Sheets..notation support

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 04:52 PM 1/25/01 -0500, AShepjazz@... wrote:

Yes, like Peter,  I was frustrated at not being able to notate repeats and
1st and 2nd time bars...but you learn to live with it and edit out as needed,
then enter repeats signs by hand, I find I have still saved an enormous
amount of time compared to writing out the whole thing by hand

I agree with that.

It depends on what you need the lead sheets for. If you are printing them for the convenience of close band members, hand altered repeat signs are no problem.

If you are distributing these for sale as professional arrangements, you had better use Sibelius, Cakewalk or Encore.

For all the areas in between those two extremes, it is a judgement call.



Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...

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Re: BIAB needs more support for lead sheet struct ure

Peter Amey <pna@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Roetker [mailto:broetker@one.net]
Sent: 25 January 2001 22:41
To: Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] BIAB needs more support for lead sheet
structure


Can you use the clean PG Music text font with MusicTime Deluxe?

Bob
Yes, it's a normal Trutype font and can be selected like any other.

Peter
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PG Music -we love you really.

Ashepjazz@...
 

from
Tony Sheppard  (UK)
Just in case the Guys and Gals at PG music are reading our moans and groans
about the limitations of BIAB notation!
This is to say that we all recognise the true genius behind BIAB...we
wouldn't be so passionate about it otherwise!!
BUT  the ability to really get to all the notation (full score View) and
proper repeat facilities which worked in the notation and in the play back
program would be really appreciated and would sell like hot cakes!  (Maybe
eneterd via the chord sheet in similar way to the part markers?)
P.S. Standard percussion notation for the drum line would be nice!
Best Wishes
TONY S.


Yahoo Groups

alisdair@...
 

Folks,

As you may already know, eGroups merged with Yahoo! in August 2000.
Well Yahoo have now launched Yahoo! Groups, a new service from Yahoo!
using eGroups technology.

Don't worry, all eGroups email and web addresses will continue to
work, and all of your group information and membership has been
maintained.

For a detailed FAQ on merger topics, please go here
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/info

Looking forward to seeing you all soon !

---alisdair


Re: BIAB needs more support for lead sheet structure

Robert Godkin <godkinr@...>
 

I just  checked and yes, PG Music text font can be used with MusicTime Deluxe. Pretty well any text font can as far as I can see.

http://www.gvox.com/

MusicTime Deluxe is under products.
----------------------------------------
Bob Roetker wrote:

Can you use the clean PG Music text font with MusicTime Deluxe?

Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Godkin"
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] BIAB needs more support for lead sheet
structure

> I've been a BIAB user for as long as it has been out pretty well.  For the
> bucks, the basic program cannot be beaten.  There are features in BIAB
that I
> would like and maybe come some day but I'm not holding my breath for a
score
> program.  Just to darn expensive to develop, I am sure.
>
> When I arrange music for our band using BIAB,  I copy my song to a mid
file
> which might included a 4 bar intro and the ending.  I try to use as many
of
> the great features BIAB has to offer such as the harmonies and soloist if
it
> is required for what I'm working on.  In PowerTracks Pro I make as many
easy
> corrections as I can and remove any tracks I'm not using.  Sometimes I'll
save
> tracks as separate mid file.  I'll then  take the track into my notation
> package called MusicTime Deluxe.  Our band feels that this is a good
notation
> package for under $100 bucks with most of the features we need and it was
easy
> to learn.  In MTD I add repeat signs, codas, titles, dressup, etc.  I have
to
> add the chord symbols into MTD.  I would really like to be able to pick
the
> chords up from BIAB/PTP, but for under $100!.
> It works fine for our band and really isn't that time consuming.  I would
only
> do this though, because of the harmonies and it is not the normal method
for
> me to entering data into score format.
> BIAB is great for singers also.  Lots of times we have had a guest singer
and
> guess what?  The lead sheet in the singers key is PG's BIAB.  Boy,
remember
> the old days when weird key changes were necessary for singers.  Now it's
just
> a printer away.
>
> By the way, I already believe BIAB is a killer tool.  Besides what I
described
> above, I use it to developing my successful one-man-band thing, to develop
> songs to be played in our progressive jazz  and dixieland jazz bands and
most
> importantly, to practice.  Nothing, but nothing, IMO, beats BIAB for
> practice.  IT IS A KILLER TOOL already.
> Oh, and also, my grand kids have one super time playing the drums on the
> screen.  That makes it a killer in itself.
>
> >
> > If they added these features, it would make BIAB an absolutely killer
tool
> > for musicians.  As it stands, it's a good tool, but not killer.
> >
> > Does anyone agree with me?
> >
> > Richard Whitehouse
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Band-in-a-Box-unsubscribe@...
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: New Member Introduction

M. Steven Ginn <sginn@...>
 

Hi my name is Steve Ginn

I have been lurking just a bit, which is sometimes caused by my
subscription to a variety of lists and the time it takes to just read
all the great info.

Anyway, I started playing alto sax in the fourth grade (I'm 40 now) and
when I moved on to high school I changed over to tenor sax. I would
also sometimes play bari sax and soprano sax in the stage band and play
the bassoon in the orchestra (because they needed one). I went on to
school at North Texas State but soon ended up stopping all music for
various personal reasons. Finally after 18 years, I picked up the sax
again to play in church and I haven't looked back (which is now about 3
yrs)!

My personal rig is as follows:

1956 MK VI Tenor sax
Selmer Super 80 Soprano sax
Yamaha WX5 (and sometimes a 3020 EWI) controlling the following:
Yamaha VL1m
Yamaha FS1R
EMU Proteus 2000 (w/ Protozoa Card)
Roland JV1010 (w/ Orchestral II Card)
Nord Micro Modular
Yamaha MFC10 (footcontroller)

I also use a Lexicon MPX1 for effects
and I mix everything down with a Mackie 1202VLZ Pro mixer

At home (in my make shift studio) I use MOTU DP with the MOTU 2408ii
system.
I also am using both Windows and a Mac for various reasons.

I have had Band-in-a-Box for almost a year now and opened it maybe
twice. Recently I upgraded it to the latest version and am determined
to really learn how to use it. My hopes for using BIAB are twofold:

1) To help me practice so that I can develop my playing by ear better
(my greatest weakness has been that I have had to rely on reading music)

2) Use BIAB for entering in chord changes and lyrics so that I can set
up a library of all the songs we are doing in Praise & Worship at
church. It would also be great if I could enter in the melodies as well
so I can produce lead sheets that are easy to follow. My thoughts here
are that I can practice the songs whenever I want at home using BIAB
real time and then print out the lead sheets for my use (and the others
in the group) at church.

The two main things I am trying to learn about BIAB now is how to set up
my synths so that I can use BIAB to play through my system and I can
play along with a better sounding band (other than standard GM types of
sounds). And, to learn how to quickly enter in my songs so that I can
build up my library.

Sorry for being so long winded. I am glad this list is here and
anticipate it will be a tremendous help. I may ask more questions than
I contribute in the beginning, but hope to be more of a help in the not
too distant future.

Sincerely,

Steve Ginn


Re: New Member Introduction

M. Steven Ginn <sginn@...>
 

It seems to me that a repository for songs that people have put into
BIAB would be helpful. Just a thought ...

Steve

also I'm collecting a song repertoire in px format ...
wonderful every musician should have it ...

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