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Re: Play-along exercises

danadler@...
 

Even better: enter the changes, let the soloist compose a solo for
you in the style you want, and play along.

-Dan


Online Music Software Resources (including BIAB real book)

danadler@...
 

http://www.danadler.com

See the Music Software Resources page (just my personal
recommendations).

-Dan


Re: Play-along exercises

Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@...>
 

Hi Scott

In a few words BIAB is the program you need to get! You can type in
any of the chord progressions and melody lines you need to practice.
I'll set up an exercises folder in our files section, should any
members put together some good exercises they can upload them to that
area.

BTW have all members checked out the file section of the group?

Kind Regards

---alisdair

--- In Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com, "Clemmons, Scott" <scottc@f...>
wrote:
Hi,

I'm a jazz pianist looking for play-along jazz exercises, such as
ii-V-I V7 cycles, etc. , ala Jamey Aebersold, but in a MIDI format.
Does Band-in-a-Box give me this capability out of the box, or how
much time would it take to create such exercises with BINAB?
Can I print out music with BINAB?

Does anyone know of any MIDI files already on Internet with such
exercises?

Thanks,

Scott
:-|
No matter what happens,someone will find a way to take it too
seriously.


Re: Any tips on organising styles ?

Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@...>
 

Hi Bob

Thanks for your great note on .ls3 files. I'm going to put all this
information together in a Styles.faq for inclusion in the Styles
folder.

BTW, great note on what this group could become. As we grow we could
become a great source of knowledge etc. Documenting "stuff" that PG
Music have not had the time or the inclination to do. As Bob says
it's up to us all to make this a great group!

---alisdair

--- In Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com, "Bob 'Notes' Norton" <norton@n...>
wrote:


New Member Introduction

Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@...>
 

Folks

If you feel inclined please introduce yourself to the group, telling
us a little about your background, musical interests, how long you
have used BIAB, other software etc. Use the following subject:

New Member Introduction

If we all use the same subject, it will enable any newbies to "View
by Thread" all the introductions.

---alisdair


Re: Any tips on organising styles ?

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 11:00 PM 1/23/01 +0000, "Alisdair MacRae Birch" wrote:
Thanks for your great note on .ls3 files.

You are welcome, my pleasure.

I'm going to put all this
information together in a Styles.faq for inclusion in the Styles
folder.

Thanks. Feel free to share it with anyone.

BTW, great note on what this group could become. As we grow we could
become a great source of knowledge etc. Documenting "stuff" that PG
Music have not had the time or the inclination to do.

It is nice having a group that is not under the control of PG Music. Not that PG ever abused its control in its forum, in fact they were very tolerant of criticism. But having them lead the group makes for a feeling of a company group (for loss of a better term). I don't know how to explain it. It just seems like we are looking to PG instead of each other for everything. Perhaps Parent/child might be a better term.

Of course that is not a negative, just different. And the PG Forum is a great thing when you find bugs in the program, or need the kind of help only PG can supply, because they can respond quickly.

But there is something about being independent of the program that should make this more of a peer to peer community.

This group should compliment, not replace that forum.

BTW, I do expect them to monitor this group. It would be in their best interests to do so.

As Bob says
it's up to us all to make this a great group!

Indeed. The first group I ever joined was a wind synth players group. I started out lurking, then participating. I received so much information from so many experts on the subject of wind synthesis, that I think I learn in one year what it would take ten to learn on my own. Plus I made some great friends.

I am hoping this becomes as rich and colorful as the wind synth group.




Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of interest to musicians!!!


Re: New Member Introduction

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 11:12 PM 1/23/01 +0000, "Alisdair MacRae Birch" wrote:
If you feel inclined please introduce yourself to the group, telling
us a little about your background, musical interests, how long you
have used BIAB, other software etc. Use the following subject:

New Member Introduction

If we all use the same subject, it will enable any newbies to "View
by Thread" all the introductions.

Here we go.

Hello! My name is Bob "Notes" Norton.

I have played sax since I was in junior high school. I played in the school band and the Band Director was a great person and a great teacher. I started on drums and when a sax rental became available, I switched to tenor sax. It was a small town and the only way to get an instrument was to "inherit" one when somebody moved.

I started gigging about a year after I picked up the horn. I was a quick learner, and way back then, you didn't have to be very good to be in a rock band (we were terrible, but so was everybody else). I immediately found I could make more money in one night than other people could make in three days. I really enjoy music and performing, and it didn't even seem like I was working. Partying and getting paid for it -- pure bliss!!! Plus as an added bonus, the girls who never even noticed me in English or Math class smiled at me after they saw me play sax in a band. For a youth with raging hormones, this settled it, I wanted to be a sax player for the rest of my life.

For most of my life, I have been a professional musician. I tried a couple of "day gigs", always playing music on the side, but they really didn't agree with me. It's hopeless, I am happiest when playing music for a living. It is like a drug habit, but it is legal and as far as I know, there are no negative side effects. Since life is a journey, not a destination, I want to enjoy the ride.

I have played quite a bit since then, from sleazy dives where they passed the hat, to warming up or backing major stars, to jam sessions, to recording with Motown and other record companies, to concert stages, to an appearance on MTV, and as a session player on other people's records, I've played just about every venue a commercial musician can.

I picked up flute, guitar, bass, keyboards, drums and a few other instruments along the way. My latest "toy" is a wind synthesizer and I am having a ball with it. I use the Yamaha WX5 controller and the Yamaha VL70-m synth module. I now play wind synth on the gig more than the sax, but I still also play sax, flute, a little keys, and I sing.

I play professionally (that is how I make my living) with my wife (an excellent vocalist and a synth player) in a duo called "The Sophisticats". Although we started playing in Bars, Cruise Ships and other public venues (back in the mid 80s), we mostly play Yacht Clubs, Country Clubs and private parties now. The pay is great, the hours are superb, and the clients are great.

If really interested, I have a short bio at http://www.nortonmusic.com/info.html#top

I have had Band-in-a-Box since version 3 on the Atari (I still have one). When version 4 came out, allowing to write three instrument styles, I took the plunge and wrote some for myself. I was playing commercial music at the time and a friend of mine started a jazz jam session. My friend taught jazz guitar at the University of Miami and gigged with some jazz greats. Since my jazz chops were rusty, and I didn't want to embarrass myself, I practiced with the BiaB and my own styles. I gave my friend a copy of my styles and he said, "I like these better than the ones that came with Band-in-a-Box!"

That is all it took for me, I took out an ad in Electronics Musician magazine. The rest as they say is history. The disks started selling, Keyboard, Electronics Musician and other magazines wrote short features on my disks, and slowly this turned into a part time business. It has taken me by the nose and forced me to learn how to be a businessman, and I must say it has been interesting.

PG Music has been very kind and helpful to me all the way and I need to say that publicly. Peter Gannon and his staff have helped me solve problems, given me inside tech information, and have even referred their own customers to me.

Besides for writing styles with Band-in-a-Box, I use it as a starting point for many of the sequences that I write for my duo. It depends on the song, sometimes the sequences might be 90% BiaB, sometimes zero% BiaB. Whatever gets the job done for the specific song.

I consider BiaB one of the greatest tools a musician can have, and I truly feel that every musician, singer and songwriter should have the program (and also my Norton Music Styles )

Come visit my web site http://www.nortonmusic.com and if nothing else, read the jokes.




Bob "Notes" Norton
norton@...
http://www.nortonmusic.com


My 8 bars intro.

Ashepjazz@...
 

Hi,
I' m Tony Sheppard. I play trombone, keyboards and Bass.
I've been using BIAB for about 2 years. to create lead sheets for small jazz
ensembles and commercial bands which I run.
I also run a Youth Jazz Orchestra..and envisage creating some Big Band scores
for this when time is available. Any tips welcome.!!
visit me at
www.gyjo.net
and  
http://members.aol.com/aintmisbe
cheers.

Tony S.


Re: New Member Introduction

David Bailey <dhbailey@...>
 

Hello, BiaB list!

I just heard about this list yesterday and joined in the afternoon! I
am delighted to find such a list. Thank you all for organizing it. Can
I assume that Alisdair is the list owner? Thank you for doing the work.

I am a private music teacher in southern New Hampshire who teaches
woodwind and brass instruments (I also repair them all) and I have been
using Band-in-a-Box since the Dos version 4, and it has been amazing to
watch the fantastic improvements in the program over the years.

My equipment includes a SoundBlaster Live! (the original one), a
Kurzweil PC88mx keyboard, a Yamaha WX5 wind controller playing through a
Yamaha VL70m module, and the new Sound Canvas 8850.

I am currently turning my BiaB song files into midi files to be able to
go out and gig as a solo act, nothing fancy or exotic, just playing at
nursing homes and small parties.

My other big music programs which I use all the time are Cakewalk and
PowerTracksPro for sequencing and Finale for notation.

David



--
David H. Bailey
dhbailey@ix.netcom.com


Alisdair MacRae Birch wrote:


Folks

If you feel inclined please introduce yourself to the group, telling
us a little about your background, musical interests, how long you
have used BIAB, other software etc. Use the following subject:

New Member Introduction

If we all use the same subject, it will enable any newbies to "View
by Thread" all the introductions.

---alisdair

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Band-in-a-Box-unsubscribe@egroups.com


Re: New Member Introduction

John Birchall <jpb2@...>
 

Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com writes:
If you feel inclined please introduce yourself to the group, telling
us a little about your background, musical interests, how long you
have used BIAB, other software etc. Use the following subject:
New Member Introduction
If we all use the same subject, it will enable any newbies to "View
by Thread" all the introductions.
OK here's me ...
lifelong jazz listener and record collector ...
recently started to learn to play ...
on the early 1920's - 30's songs for starters they're easier!? ...
BiaB backing tracks are a real help, great ...
I'm transcribing Louis' Hot 5 & 7's into BiaB to learn and understand,
anyone want to help?
also I'm collecting a song repertoire in BiaB format ...
wonderful every musician should have it ...

cheers and beers
john p birchall
Bush sax player from Chester.


Re: Play-along exercises

Clemmons, Scott <scottc@...>
 

I guess I will have to purchase BIAB, then. It sounds like what I've been looking for.
Thanks all for the information.
-Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Alisdair MacRae Birch [mailto:alisdair@alisdair.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:52 PM
To: Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Re: Play-along exercises


Hi Scott

In a few words BIAB is the program you need to get! You can type in
any of the chord progressions and melody lines you need to practice.
I'll set up an exercises folder in our files section, should any
members put together some good exercises they can upload them to that
area.

BTW have all members checked out the file section of the group?

Kind Regards

---alisdair

--- In Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com, "Clemmons, Scott" <scottc@f...>
wrote:
Hi,

I'm a jazz pianist looking for play-along jazz exercises, such as
ii-V-I V7 cycles, etc. , ala Jamey Aebersold, but in a MIDI format.
Does Band-in-a-Box give me this capability out of the box, or how
much time would it take to create such exercises with BINAB?
Can I print out music with BINAB?

Does anyone know of any MIDI files already on Internet with such
exercises?

Thanks,

Scott
:-|
No matter what happens,someone will find a way to take it too
seriously.



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Re: Play-along exercises

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 08:26 AM 1/24/01 -0600, "Clemmons, Scott" wrote:
I guess I will have to purchase BIAB, then. It sounds like what I've been looking for.
Thanks all for the information.

Please consider buying Band-in-a-Box from Norton Music. If you do, I'll include one of my style disks, free ($32.95 value). Go to http://www.nortonmusic.com/biab.html for details.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of interest to musicians!!!


Re: (Band in a Box) New Member Introduction

Lee K. Muller
 

Aloha All,

My name is Lee Muller and have been a Band in a box user for about 10 years.
I'm a fire fighter here in Hawaii, but have also been playing the guitar
professionally since 1966. My instrument is the electric guitar, but I've
been recording a Takamine classical.

My equipment includes a Roland UA100 Audio Canvas which is connected to my
computer through the USB port, and a Roland SC8850 Sound Canvas, which is
connected to the UA100. I use a pair of Tannoy Actives for monitors, and a
Mackie 1202-VZL Pro to mix everything into the monitors. Software I use is
BIAB and Cubase VST 3.6.

I have some of my music posted at http://leemuller.iuma.com , where they can
be downloaded or streamed for free. 6 out of the 8 tunes were done with
BIAB, 2 were done with Jammer Pro. See if you can pick out which ones.

One last note: the last tune I recorded (Watch What Happens) was done with
a Bob Norton style, a Samba, and I have to say that I am very happy with it
(the style, that is). Bob's styles need no tweaking at all. They are all
good to go right off the disk, and they are really cookin', believe me.

Anyhow, glad to have met you all and hope to hear from you soon.

Lee Muller
http://leemuller.iuma.com


How do they do it?

danadler@...
 

Does anyone have any ideas how BIAB actually implements the 'soloist'
and 'melodist' features, especially in the different styles.

From a computer science point of view, there have been a zillion PhD
on the topic of algorithmically generating Jazz Improvisations and
melodies, but I think what BIAB actually does is way beyond what
anyone else has even dreamed of.

Any white papers? Conference papers? Anything describing the inner
workings of this feature? Is there an API? Can 3rd parties create a
new 'soloist'?

-Dan


New file uploaded to Band-in-a-Box

Band-in-a-Box@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Band-in-a-Box
group.

File : /BIAB_FAQ.txt
Uploaded by : alisdair@alisdair.com
Description : BIAB User Group FAQ

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alisdair@alisdair.com


Re: New Member Introduction

Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@...>
 

Folks

Here is my introduction - for those who don't know about me!

Alisdair MacRae Birch - I'm a Jazz Guitarist currently living in NY,
USA, originally from the UK. I started this group up as I have been
using BIAB since the very early days, for practicing, producing lead
sheets and in my teaching. During my teaching, people would ask me
how could they get files, learn more about BIAB etc, so in the end I
set up this group. My intention is not to replace the excellent
support forum that PG Music have, but to provide a forum where users
of BIAB, can get to know one another and exchange files etc.

I also run the Jazz Guitar discussion group:
http://www.egroups.com/group/jazz_guitar

The group is the largest jazz guitar discussion group and has been in
existence since 1995, first on a private listserv, then on the
original egroups. It's open to beginners and advanced players, and
has many well known players among it's members.

I've been playing for many years, even have a MFA in Jazz and and a
Phd.in Computer Science! If you are interested you can learn more on
my (soon to be revamped) site:

http://www.alisdair.com

Best Wishes

---alisdair


Louis Armstrong

Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@...>
 

Hi John

Like all Jazz musicians, I've always enjoyed Louis Armstrong's
lyrical and rhythmic playing. In my teaching, I use Louis to show how
simple lines with few notes can produce something extra-ordinary and
melodious.

I've transcribed Lous Armstrong's first chorus on Lillian Hardin
Armstrong's composition "Hotter Than That". It's available on the
Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz and was originally recorded in
1927 by his Hot Five Group.

I've created a BIAB file, and find it works well with the PG Music
Style J_DIXIE2.STY. I'll put the file in a folder called Armstrong in
the File section. Hope you enjoy it and find it useful in your
learning. If anyone else has transcribed some of his work, please put
it in this folder.

---alisdair
http://www.alisdair.com

--- In Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com, John Birchall <jpb2@s...> wrote:
Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com writes:
If you feel inclined please introduce yourself to the group,
telling
us a little about your background, musical interests, how long you
have used BIAB, other software etc. Use the following subject:
New Member Introduction
If we all use the same subject, it will enable any newbies
to "View
by Thread" all the introductions.
OK here's me ...
lifelong jazz listener and record collector ...
recently started to learn to play ...
on the early 1920's - 30's songs for starters they're easier!? ...
BiaB backing tracks are a real help, great ...
I'm transcribing Louis' Hot 5 & 7's into BiaB to learn and
understand,
anyone want to help?
also I'm collecting a song repertoire in BiaB format ...
wonderful every musician should have it ...

cheers and beers
john p birchall
Bush sax player from Chester.


New file uploaded to Band-in-a-Box

Band-in-a-Box@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Band-in-a-Box
group.

File : /Armstrong/HotterThanThat.zip
Uploaded by : alisdair@alisdair.com
Description : Hotter Than That

You can access this file at the URL

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New Member Introduction

Frank Hand
 

My name is Frank Hand. I'm a Television Producer/Director and work
in the Irish State TV company - RT.

I don't have anything like the competencies as a musician of those
other members, who have introduced themselves to the group over the
last couple of days. However I do play keyboards and mandolin and
have a basic knowledge of MIDI. In spite of my lack of ability,
music is one of my great loves.

I only heard of BIAB about 18 months ago and bought myself version 9
and PowerTracks 6 as Christmas presents. Also ended up buying some
of the Pianist Series, so for a while there I was a particularly good
customer of PGMusic! Didn't do much with BIAB last year as I was
concentrating on improving my playing technique with the help of the
Pianist CDs. However I treated myself to another present last
Christmas and upgraded to BIAB 10 and PowerTracks 7.

I've been working through the manual and asking questions at the
Forum for the last month or so. Bob has already put me straight in a
few areas. Thanks, Bob! Hoping to really get to grips with BIAB in
the coming months.

Regards,

Frank Hand
http://frankhand.com

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Re: Louis Armstrong

John Birchall <jpb2@...>
 

alisdair@alisdair.com writes:
I've created a BIAB file, and find it works well with the PG Music
Style J_DIXIE2.STY. I'll put the file in a folder called Armstrong in
the File section.
thanks Alisdair,
what a solo! Including those memorable 4 bars from bar 17 ...
played by hundreds of trumpeters since 1927 but still inspiring!!

I'll put one of mine 'Come Back Sweet Papa' in the Armstrong file ...
it follows the Hot 5 song structure but only has the lead lines at the
moment ...


cheers and beers
john p birchall
Bush sax player from Chester.

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