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Re: Test -- please ignore

John Birchall <jpb2@...>
 

Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com writes:
I just joined and wanted to make sure I can post.
Hi Bob,
yep you can post ... !
I've just joined myself ... what happens next??

cheers and beers
john p birchall
Bush sax player from Chester.


Pracitce tool (was: Test -- please ignore)

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 03:27 PM 1/21/01 +0000, John Birchall <jpb2@student.open.ac.uk> wrote:
yep you can post ... !
I've just joined myself ... what happens next??
I guess we talk about Band-in-a-Box stuff. Help each other with problems
and exchange ideas.

Bush sax player from Chester.
Greetings from the USA, John.

I play sax, too. I have an H. Couf Superba, Grassi Prestige and antique,
circa 1925 King. I also play WX5 / VL70-m wind synthesizer. But that is
for another mail list.

To keep this on topic, I think that Band-in-a-Box is the greatest tool for
practicing improvisation. I can play my sax or wind synth along with BiaB
and try out daring things without embarrassing myself in front of other
musicians if they don't work. By being daring and trying things out, you
can discover new ways to express yourself.




Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

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Any tips on organising styles ?

Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@...>
 

Folks

Has anyone any tips on organising styles ? I would like to put
together an FAQ for newbies on styles.

My thoughts and understanding (please tell me if I'm wrong!)

1. All styles must be stored in the Band-in-a-Box root directory so
the program can find them (c:&#92;bb).

2. To incorporate new styles into Band-in-a-Box, edit the bbw.lst,
which also must be placed in the Band-in-a-Box root directory so the
program can find it (c:&#92;bb). To quote from PG Music's FAQ:

You may edit this file to change the information, add/remove styles
etc.

Any line beginning with a semicolon ";" is a comment
Lines beginning with ~ indicate a new category like jazz, country,
pop
Lines beginning with @ are a description of a style in the format
@a&#92;b^c*d
a=style file name eg. zzjazzsw.sty (max. 8 chars + .sty )
b= Long Style Name e.g. Jazz Swing Style (max. 32 chars)
c = memo
d= examples of songs that can be played in this style
c and d combined can be max. 255 chars, e.g. c could be 200 chars and
d could be 50.

Each style description must be on one-line, carriage returns are not
allowed in the middle of a style description.
Once made, you add the new information to the style picker by
choosing the re-build option inside the style picker. This rebuilds
the binary file bbw.lsb from this file bbw.lst.

You can list a style more than once, for example Pop Ballad might be
listed under Jazz and Pop Ballad.
You can make your own categories. Like My Favorite styles, and build
up a list.
Example excerpt from the BBW.LST file:

~Jazz
@ZZJazzSW.STY&#92;Jazz Swing Style^This is the "built-in jazz swing
style"using bass, drums and piano. Bass plays half notes in 'a'
section and walks in 'b' section.*Satin Doll, Sweet Georgia Brown
@A.STY&#92;This is A^ How about this A style Useful for A songs
@BluHill.sty&#92;Blueberry Hill Style^This is Blueberry Hill*Fats Domino
songs
@GARNER.STY&#92;Errol Garner Style^This is garner*I'll Remember april
@GARNER2.STY&#92;Errol Garner Style #2^This style is in 2 feel for a and
b*Sunny Side of The Street

3. There is a limit to the number of style files (255 ?) that can be
included.

4. PG Music make their latest BBW.LST available for download from:
Go to: http://www.pgmusic.com/support_miscellaneous.htm

5. Denis Laadouceur has a program called The Style Librarian
currently at version 1.5 and available from http://www.aei.ca/~denisl
which helps organise styles.

Has any one any comments, additions etc ?

---alisdair


Re: Test -- please ignore

Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@...>
 

Hi - What happens next is up to all of us! The intention in setting
this up was to have a community/forum where we can exchange files,
tips and get to know other users of BIAB, third-party BIAB vendors
and add-on products.

All are welcome to join!

--- In Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com, John Birchall <jpb2@s...> wrote:
Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com writes:
I just joined and wanted to make sure I can post.
Hi Bob,
yep you can post ... !
I've just joined myself ... what happens next??

cheers and beers
john p birchall
Bush sax player from Chester.


Any tips on organising styles ?

Frank Hand
 

Hi Alisdair,

A couple of comments...

(1) As far as I know, and I'm no expert here, the number of styles
which can be included in the Style Picker Window varies with your
version of Band-in-a-Box. I think the limit increased again for
BB10, but can't remember where the limit currently stands.

(2) When adding your own new styles to the list there is an
alternative to editing the BBW.LST file. That is to create new *.LS3
files in the same format. That's what Bob "Notes" Norton does for
his styles. I've tried it myself and it works just fine. By keeping
your own styles in a separate list, you don't risk overwriting them,
if you happen to install a new PG Music stlyes disk. (Installing new
Styles Disks usually overwrites your existing BBW.LST file, although
you are advised to make a backup of this file before you install.)

(3) I have Denis Ladouceur's Style Librarian. It only costs $10 and
I find it quite a handy tool. Although it is easy enough to
hand-code your BBW.LST or *.LS3 files, the Style Librarian makes it a
much simpler process when you want to copy styles into different
Style categories etc. I would certainly recommend it.

Frank Hand

--- Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@alisdair.com> wrote: > Folks

Has anyone any tips on organising styles ? I would like to put
together an FAQ for newbies on styles.

My thoughts and understanding (please tell me if I'm wrong!)

1. All styles must be stored in the Band-in-a-Box root directory so
the program can find them (c:&#92;bb).

2. To incorporate new styles into Band-in-a-Box, edit the bbw.lst,
which also must be placed in the Band-in-a-Box root directory so
the program can find it (c:&#92;bb). To quote from PG Music's FAQ:

You may edit this file to change the information, add/remove styles
etc.

Any line beginning with a semicolon ";" is a comment
Lines beginning with ~ indicate a new category like jazz, country,
pop
Lines beginning with @ are a description of a style in the format
@a&#92;b^c*d
a=style file name eg. zzjazzsw.sty (max. 8 chars + .sty )
b= Long Style Name e.g. Jazz Swing Style (max. 32 chars)
c = memo
d= examples of songs that can be played in this style
c and d combined can be max. 255 chars, e.g. c could be 200 chars
and
d could be 50.

Each style description must be on one-line, carriage returns are
not allowed in the middle of a style description.
Once made, you add the new information to the style picker by
choosing the re-build option inside the style picker. This rebuilds
the binary file bbw.lsb from this file bbw.lst.

You can list a style more than once, for example Pop Ballad might
be listed under Jazz and Pop Ballad.
You can make your own categories. Like My Favorite styles, and
build up a list.
Example excerpt from the BBW.LST file:

~Jazz
@ZZJazzSW.STY&#92;Jazz Swing Style^This is the "built-in jazz swing
style"using bass, drums and piano. Bass plays half notes in 'a'
section and walks in 'b' section.*Satin Doll, Sweet Georgia Brown
@A.STY&#92;This is A^ How about this A style Useful for A songs
@BluHill.sty&#92;Blueberry Hill Style^This is Blueberry Hill*Fats
Domino songs
@GARNER.STY&#92;Errol Garner Style^This is garner*I'll Remember april
@GARNER2.STY&#92;Errol Garner Style #2^This style is in 2 feel for a
and b*Sunny Side of The Street

3. There is a limit to the number of style files (255 ?) that can
be included.

4. PG Music make their latest BBW.LST available for download from:
Go to: http://www.pgmusic.com/support_miscellaneous.htm

5. Denis Laadouceur has a program called The Style Librarian
currently at version 1.5 and available from
http://www.aei.ca/~denisl
which helps organise styles.

Has any one any comments, additions etc ?

---alisdair




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4 Improved Styles for Band-in-a-Box (18k)

Jim Lucas
 

Does anyone know if the '4 Improved Styles for Band-in-a-Box (18k) '
found on PGMusic's support site at
http://www.pgmusic.com/support_miscellaneous.htm are incorporated into
version 10 of BiaB? I have V. 10, and am wondering if I should still
download and install these four styles.

It seems from earlier posts that some people are receiving the digest
version and replying to messages from within the digest, thereby
copying the entire digest in their reply!


Re: Any tips on organising styles ?

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 04:31 PM 1/21/01 +0000, you wrote:
Has anyone any tips on organising styles ? I would like to put
together an FAQ for newbies on styles.

My thoughts and understanding (please tell me if I'm wrong!)

1. All styles must be stored in the Band-in-a-Box root directory so
the program can find them (c:&#92;bb).
Most definitely. Although you can use styles from anywhere by using the
menu command and changing the folder, the style picker window (STY button)
will not find them unless they are in the root directory.

2. To incorporate new styles into Band-in-a-Box, edit the bbw.lst,
which also must be placed in the Band-in-a-Box root directory so the
program can find it (c:&#92;bb). To quote from PG Music's FAQ:
[SNIP]
There is a new way to organize styles in version 9.0c or higher of
Band-in-a-Box. You can use .ls3 files. The ls3 files are text files and
they allow the extra information like tempo, swing or even, to be displayed
in the STY window.

The beauty of the .ls3 file is that when PG Music releases a new disk and
therefore replaces the bbw.lst file, the new disk will not erase your extra
styles as it will not replace your ls3 file.

The bad part is that if you have the version 10 Mega Pack, or all the PG
Music styles, PG has exceeded the limit of files allowed in the style
picker window already. Neither my styles nor anybody else's will fit. I
have informed Peter Gannon and the tech department about this problem and
they are working on it. I suspect they will release a 10.* update on their
web site someday.

Somewhere I have some information about how to build an ls3 file. If there
is any interest, let me know and I'll be happy to post it.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

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Re: Any tips on organising styles ?

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 10:31 AM 1/21/01 -0800, Frank Hand <handfp@yahoo.com> wrote:
(2) When adding your own new styles to the list there is an
alternative to editing the BBW.LST file. That is to create new *.LS3
files in the same format. That's what Bob "Notes" Norton does for
his styles. I've tried it myself and it works just fine. By keeping
your own styles in a separate list, you don't risk overwriting them,
if you happen to install a new PG Music stlyes disk. (Installing new
Styles Disks usually overwrites your existing BBW.LST file, although
you are advised to make a backup of this file before you install.)
That is exactly what I do. Once again, let me remind you that if you have
all of PG Music's styles, they won't show up. This is true whether or not
you use .ls3 or if you edit the bbw.lst file.

PG is working on this.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

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Re: 4 Improved Styles for Band-in-a-Box (18k)

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 01:05 AM 1/22/01 +0000, "Jim Lucas" <J-Lucas@neiu.edu> wrote:
Does anyone know if the '4 Improved Styles for Band-in-a-Box (18k) '
found on PGMusic's support site at
http://www.pgmusic.com/support_miscellaneous.htm are incorporated into
version 10 of BiaB? I have V. 10, and am wondering if I should still
download and install these four styles.
I don't know for sure, but style files are pretty small and won't take long
to download.

If I were you I would rename them (or rename the old ones) before
installing them. You might like the older style better.

There were some things I liked about the very old zzjazz style that are no
longer in the style. It has definitely been improved, but I miss the old
zzjazz style. I'd rather have both than just the improved version.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to MIDI
file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from the web
... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of
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Re: Any tips on organising styles ?

Alisdair MacRae Birch <alisdair@...>
 

Hi Bob

Thanks for your comprehensive reply, very helpful. Would be very
interested if you have some more info on building .ls3 files, to
include in the FAQ.

By the way many years back I bought some of your style disks and
found them very good. They were nicely packaged and came with good
notes - I must have used the Soca Style numerous times! Why not put a
link to your site in the links section of the group ?

---alisdair

--- In Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com, "Bob 'Notes' Norton" <norton@n...>
wrote:

Somewhere I have some information about how to build an ls3 file.
If there
is any interest, let me know and I'll be happy to post it.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@n...
http://www.nortonmusic.com

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to
MIDI
file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web
... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of
interest to musicians!!!


Re: Any tips on organising styles ?

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

>At 08:47 AM 1/22/01 +0000, "Alisdair MacRae Birch" <alisdair@...> wrote:
>Hi Bob
>
>Thanks for your comprehensive reply, very helpful. Would be very
>interested if you have some more info on building .ls3 files, to
>include in the FAQ.
>
>By the way many years back I bought some of your style disks and
>found them very good. They were nicely packaged and came with good
>notes - I must have used the Soca Style numerous times! Why not put a
>link to your site in the links section of the group ?
>

Hi Alisdair,

Thanks for the compliment on my styles. I just released my 10th style disk the latter part of last year, and the response has been great. I also released three new disks written by Roy Hawkesford, a jazz and music educator living in the UK.

The following is offered without warranty of any kind. Nether Bob "Notes" Norton nor Norton Music accepts any responsibility for the material below. Hopefully there are no typographical errors in it, but if you find one, please be kind enough to let me know. This list was comprised using instructional material provided by PG Music and it is embellished with lessons learned by experience while writing Norton Music aftermarket styles for Band-in-a-Box. (Please visit my web site at http://www.nortonmusic.com)

Here is what I have learned about .ls3 files. I have used these successfully to organize the Norton and Hawkesford files so they show up in the STY window, and are not erased by adding new PG Music styles. Please note, if they do not show up automatically, re-boot Band-in-a-Box after adding the ls3 files and the first time you open BiaB's style picker window, click Re-Build. If you have all the PG Music styles, you might experience a style over-run problem, and they will not show up. Contact support@... to let them know (they are good about fixing bugs). If you have any other kind of trouble with either the Norton or Hawkesford styles, contact support@...

The ls3 file is a text file. You can make one with Window's Notepad or other word processor as long as you save it as a plain text file. If your word processor allows, save it with the .ls3 extension, if not change the extension after it is saved.

You can make as many .ls3 files as you want, but no file can exceed 65,000 (65K) bytes.

Both the .ls3 file and the user style must reside in the same folder as the bbw.exe (Band-in-a-Box) program. Unless you changed it that would be c:\bb

There are a couple of different ways to do this, but the one I found best and the one I use for my Norton Music styles contains two lines.

Line 1 includes the style description exactly as found in the bbw.lst -- do not modify the bbw.lst file, but use the guidelines for the bbw.lst as found in the BiaB user manual.

Line 2 includes the additional information.

Here is an example of the second line from a Norton Music style (16 beat ballad number 1), and I'll follow it with an explanation. {The explanation will be in the same style brackets this sentence is enclosed in}. You will substitute the values for your own styles according to the recommendation in the { } brackets.

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV,16,66,100,76,8,jz,jzs

what does this all mean?

;^@ {This must appear at the beginning of each line, for all other entries, use a comma to separate them}

;^@#16bbal1.sty
#16bbal1.sty {this is the style name, exactly as it appears on your hard drive}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0
0 {this denotes which soloist to use (1-255) and 0=don't always use the same soloist

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16
j16 {which soloist type to use -- * see SOLOIST TYPE list at the end of this post}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true
true {double time is OK -- use false if you don't want to allow double time soloist}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4
4 {base time signature -- use either 3 for 3/4 or 4 for 4/4 here}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV
EV {this entry designates whether the notes in the next entry are EV (even) or sw (swing)}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV,16
16 {this denotes which notes in the above entry are EV or sw -- use either 8 or 16}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV,16,66
66 {lowest recommended tempo}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV,16,66,100
100 {highest recommended tempo}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV,16,66,100,76
76 {typical tempo}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV,16,66,100,76,8
8 {style disk the style is found on -- PG Music has reserved 1-255 for their own use}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV,16,66,100,76,8,jz
jz {melody patch to use. Either assign a patch number between 1-128 or use the **melody / soloist patch in the chart below}

;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV,16,66,100,76,8,jz,jzs
jzs {soloist patch to use.  Either assign a patch number between 1-128 or use the **melody / soloist patch in the chart below}

In the melody patch and soloist patch I generally use the letters from the chart below for my Norton Music styles. I think this allows the end user more flexibility.

* SOLOIST TYPE
j3.......Jazz Swing - triplet feel 8th notes
j8.......Jazz - even 8th notes
j16......Jazz - even16th notes
w3.......Waltz - triplet feel
w8.......Waltz - even 8ths
c3.......Country - triplet feel 8th notes
c8.......Country - even 8ths
cw8......Country waltz - even 8ths
b3.......Blues - triplet feel 8ths
b8.......Blues - even 8ths
p16......Pop - even 16ths
p24......Pop - swing 16ths
class8...Classical - even 8ths
class16..Classical - even 16ths
tek16....Tecnno - even 16ths
funk16...Funk - even 16ths
ethnic16.Ethnic - even 16ths
ethnic3..Ethnic - triplet feel

** melody / soloist
1-128 to get a specific patch or ...
jz....Jazz melody patch
jzs...Jazz soloist patch
bl....Blues melody patch
bls...Blues soloist patch
bg....Bluegrass melody (patch)
bgs...Bluegrass soloist (patch)
la....Latin melody
las...Latin soloist
ct....Country melody
cts...Country soloist
po....Pop melody
pos...Pop soloist
rk....Rock melody
rks...Rock soloist
fu....Funk melody
fus...Funk soloist
cl....Classical melody
cls...Classical soloist
tk....Techno melody
tks...Techno soloist
et....Ethnic melody
ets...Ethnic soloist
fo....Folk melody
fos...Folk soloist
re....Reggae melody
res...Reggae soloist
af....African melody
afs...African soloist

Both lines combined for the Norton Music style look like this:
@#16bbal1.sty\16beat Ballad           • Norton^meter=4/4 ... •=LiveDrums ... Norton-SD#8 ... A 1970s - 2000s 16 Beat ballad*Every Time You Go Away
;^@#16bbal1.sty,0,j16,true,4,EV,16,66,100,76,8,jz,jzs
(Turn off the word wrap feature to view the properly)

The line that starts with@ is the bbw.lst style line
the line that starts with the ;^@ is the additional ls3 type line

The updated Norton Music and Roy Hawkesford ls3. files can always be found at:
http://www.nortonmusic.com/news.html
and will probably be under the heading:
#1. For Windows Band-in-a-Box version 9.0b or higher (9.0c preferred)

If things change, I'll change the heading but the latest version for Windows will always be at the top. Mac people can find an updated bbw.lst file at the bottom of the page, and if PG Music ever supports ls3 files for the Mac, I'll put an update there for you, too.

If you have anything to add, or discover anything new that you find beneficial, please contact norton@...

This list was comprised using material from Band-in-a-Box and embellished with lessons learned by experience while writing Norton Music aftermarket styles for Band-in-a-Box. Please visit my web site www.nortonmusic.com

If anybody is interested in me keeping a library of .ls3 files on my Band-in-a-Box site, let me know. If there is enough demand, I'll do it.

Pretty lengthy post but I hope it will help.


Bob "Notes" Norton
norton@...
http://www.nortonmusic.com


Help make this become a great source of information and friendship

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

The more people there are on this group, the better it will be for everybody.

It is up to us to promote it.

Tell all your BiaB friends about it and invite them to join.

If somebody hasn't already done it, please post an invitation on the
appropriate PG Music forum. (Since I write commercial styles for
Band-in-a-Box, I try to keep my participation in the PG Music forum to a
minimum).

More members, mean more suggestions, more help and more information.

I belong to a list similar to this that is for wind synthesizer players,
and it has become the best thing that has ever happened to my wind synth
knowledge. I have also made some great friends on that list. In short, it
has enriched my life.

This group can be that good for Band-in-a-Box users. It's up to us.

Let me make a few suggestions:

* Invite BiaB friends, the more BiaB users on the list, the better it will
be (but please don't SPAM this in inappropriate places).

* Keep the posts on topic, especially when the list gets large, this will
help the people who pay by the minute for Internet service (some countries
still do this).

* Be kind and respectful to each other -- even if we have a difference of
opinions. Just don't say anything to another group member that you wouldn't
want said to you

* Offer information when you can. Although the more experienced people can
do a lot of good helping the less experienced ones, one thing I learned as
a sax teacher -- you can always learn something from a student. If you have
good input, share it with others. We should all contribute to our own
capacity to help.

The above are my suggestions and my suggestions only. The represent my
opinions and have been formed by my affiliation with other groups. They are
not official e-group rules, and any e-group rules should supercede these
suggestions.

The main idea here, as I see it, is to (first) have some fun (second) share
information to help our brothers and sisters and (third) make some new friends.


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

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How do invite other people to join this e-group?

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

After sending the last post, I decided to invite a few of my friends to the
group and I realized I don't know the proper way to do this.

I checked the FAQs and couldn't find it there.

Can someone either tell me what the proper way to do this is or point me to
the proper web page for this information?

Thanks,

Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

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Hello, BIAB Friends!!!

Bart Brady Ciampa
 

Hello, BIAB friends!!

What a great idea having this e-group!! I've been using BIAB since the VERY
early days when the entire program was on one floppy disk!! I've upgraded
faithfully through the years and this new version (10) is fantastic! I'm
also a Power Tracks user and the new version 7 is great.

I want to invite all of you to listen to my mp3 website where all of the
music (27 tunes) was composed and recorded using BIAB and Power Tracks Pro
Audio. The site is at: www.mp3.com/bartbc (All songs are free to listen to
or download! I'd love your comments!)

Also, one of my commercial CD's titled, "Soft Sounds, Sweet Dreams" is
available through amazon.com and has free samples of each track. This CD
was also done with BIAB and Power Tracks and is a collection of jazz
standards. Just do a search with the title or my name and play the samples
for an idea of how BIAB can be used commercially.

I'm already learning lots of things I never knew from this e-group!! And Bob
Norton is a great resource!! (Hi, Bob!!)

Thanks again!!

Bart Brady Ciampa
www.mp3.com/bartbc


Re: Hello, BIAB Friends!!!

Lee K. Muller
 

Mr. Ciampa,

I just wanted to tell you that I've been to both your sites at MP3 and IUMA
and enjoy your music VERY much. In fact, I mentioned you in a post I made
to the IUMA bulletin board called "Hidden Talents". (I'm so sorry that I
misspelled your first name in the post).

I didn't realize you were a BIAB user. I too, have been a BIAB user for
many years and most of my tracks at http://leemuller.iuma.com were done with
BIAB.

Anyway, just wanted to say Aloha.

Lee Muller

----- Original Message -----
From: <bartbc@pacifier.com>
To: <Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:24 AM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Hello, BIAB Friends!!!


Hello, BIAB friends!!

What a great idea having this e-group!! I've been using BIAB since the
VERY
early days when the entire program was on one floppy disk!! I've upgraded
faithfully through the years and this new version (10) is fantastic! I'm
also a Power Tracks user and the new version 7 is great.

I want to invite all of you to listen to my mp3 website where all of the
music (27 tunes) was composed and recorded using BIAB and Power Tracks Pro
Audio. The site is at: www.mp3.com/bartbc (All songs are free to listen
to
or download! I'd love your comments!)

Also, one of my commercial CD's titled, "Soft Sounds, Sweet Dreams" is
available through amazon.com and has free samples of each track. This CD
was also done with BIAB and Power Tracks and is a collection of jazz
standards. Just do a search with the title or my name and play the samples
for an idea of how BIAB can be used commercially.

I'm already learning lots of things I never knew from this e-group!! And
Bob
Norton is a great resource!! (Hi, Bob!!)

Thanks again!!

Bart Brady Ciampa
www.mp3.com/bartbc



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Re: How do invite other people to join this e-group?

james green <jgreen@...>
 

you can either go to the website on eGroups
(www.egroups.com/group/band-in-a-box) or send an email to
<band-in-a-box-subscribe@egroups.com>

later,

james

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob 'Notes' Norton [mailto:norton@nortonmusic.com]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:48 AM
To: Band-in-a-Box@egroups.com
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] How do invite other people to join this
e-group?


After sending the last post, I decided to invite a few of my friends to the
group and I realized I don't know the proper way to do this.

I checked the FAQs and couldn't find it there.

Can someone either tell me what the proper way to do this is or point me to
the proper web page for this information?

Thanks,

Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

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file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from the web
... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of
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New BIAB egroup membe

jazzlon10@...
 

Hi, BIABoppers,
I'm a grad student at CSU-Long Beach writing my thesis on the unique teaching
methodology of the great jazz performer and educator, Bobby Shew. I haven't
been using BIAB too much lately. In the past, my main use was manually
entering lead sheets so that I could transpose for vocalists who sing with my
combo. I am considering a scanner to eliminate hand entry. I'd appreciate any
input on the type of scanner to buy and what experience anybody has had with
scanners. I have BIAB 98 and have been considering upgrading to 2001, but the
price seems pretty steep. Are there practical advantages to upgrading that
you could share with me?

Lon Argabright
Long Beach, CA


Play-along exercises

Clemmons, Scott <scottc@...>
 

Hi,

I'm a jazz pianist looking for play-along jazz exercises, such as ii-V-I V7 cycles, etc. , ala Jamey Aebersold, but in a MIDI format.
Does Band-in-a-Box give me this capability out of the box, or how much time would it take to create such exercises with BINAB?
Can I print out music with BINAB?

Does anyone know of any MIDI files already on Internet with such exercises?

Thanks,

Scott
:-|
No matter what happens,someone will find a way to take it too seriously.


Re: Play-along exercises

Steve Peacock
 

Setting up ii-V-I exercises to practice over will take less than a few minutes with BIAB. It's very quick and easy.

You could also download a whole bunch of practice exercises which have been set up by somebody else. I'm sure there's lots on the web, but one example is http://members.nbci.com/wesleydick/Songlist.html
where there is a zip file full of BIAB practice exercises (submitted by some guy called Bob Roetker, apparently).

Regards
Steve






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Re: Play-along exercises

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 06:59 AM 1/23/01 -0600, "Clemmons, Scott" wrote:
I'm a jazz pianist looking for play-along jazz exercises, such as ii-V-I V7 cycles, etc. , ala Jamey Aebersold, but in a MIDI format.
Does Band-in-a-Box give me this capability out of the box, or how much time would it take to create such exercises with BINAB?

Creating an exercise like this would take about a minute in Band-in-a-Box. Simply type the chord changes in, pick a tempo and style and click play.

Can I print out music with BINAB?

Yes. The music is very readable but not as good as you would get from a dedicated music publishing program like Finale or Encore.

The main advantage of the Abersold disks over BiaB are the arrangements. They are slick and very song specific.

While the very good arrangements in Band-in-a-Box are more generic, IMHO, the BiaB advantages more than make up for the non song specific arrangements. Here are just a few: You can change the key with a click of the mouse (without changing tempo) ... You can change the tempo from largo to presto with a click of the mouse (without changing the pitch) ... You can change the style of the song ... You can pick a problem section for you and repeat it a couple of dozen times without any glitching ... You can mute any of the parts (in your case the piano) with a mouse click ... You can change the notation style so it reads Roman Numerals (ii - V7 - I) instead of the chord symbols ... etc.

Since you don't have Band-in-a-Box, why not listen to some of the arrangements? I have a page full of MIDI files that have been made with Band-in-a-Box and my 3rd party, aftermarket styles. Each MIDI file was exported from Band-in-a-Box and not one note was changed after exporting. In other words, "what you hear is what you get." To listen, go to http://www.nortonmusic.com/styledemo.html


Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...

FREE Midi Files ... Band-in-a-Box improvement software ... links to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and some way cool stuff of interest to musicians!!!

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