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Re: A Real-Tracks INSTRUMENTS database

David Brusegard
 

I got the excel files from his link.  They look very helpful
David

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 7:09 AM Robert Birkeland <robert@...> wrote:
HI BETTER STILL
you can look at the files in my www
LINK:
 
 
mvh/regards
Robert Birkeland, Bergen, NORWAY


On 11/02/2021 15:23, David H. Bailey wrote:

Sounds interesting -- but attachments are stripped for this group, so whatever "this" is did not make it to the group.

Instead, upload it to the files section of the band-in-a-box page at groups.io and then provide a link to it in a message to the group.

David


On 2/11/2021 7:47 AM, Robert Birkeland wrote:
WOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED IN A INSTRUMENTS DATABASE,,,,,?

In this way you can find out which instruments the different styles uses,

and what styles each instruments can fit into...

this is a short example of what you can see...here in xls-format

if this is converted to ACCESS then it would be more useful.

PG music have no database of what instruments they use for the styles-demos,

but in this way you will have full access

---
mvh/regards
Robert Birkeland , Bergen, NORWAY
www.filtermusik.dk



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A Real-Tracks INSTRUMENTS database

Robert Birkeland
 

HI BETTER STILL
you can look at the files in my www
LINK:
 
 
mvh/regards
Robert Birkeland, Bergen, NORWAY
www.filtermusik.dk


On 11/02/2021 15:23, David H. Bailey wrote:

Sounds interesting -- but attachments are stripped for this group, so whatever "this" is did not make it to the group.

Instead, upload it to the files section of the band-in-a-box page at groups.io and then provide a link to it in a message to the group.

David


On 2/11/2021 7:47 AM, Robert Birkeland wrote:
WOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED IN A INSTRUMENTS DATABASE,,,,,?

In this way you can find out which instruments the different styles uses,

and what styles each instruments can fit into...

this is a short example of what you can see...here in xls-format

if this is converted to ACCESS then it would be more useful.

PG music have no database of what instruments they use for the styles-demos,

but in this way you will have full access

---
mvh/regards
Robert Birkeland , Bergen, NORWAY
www.filtermusik.dk



-- 
*****
David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@...
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com






Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

Gary Benny
 

Looks like he’s on YouTube too. 

Gary

On Feb 10, 2021, at 4:13 PM, IAN GRAHAM via groups.io <idgraham@...> wrote:



Noted, Jan

I have a very soft spot for Abdullah Ibrahim. I wish 'someone' would do a township style.

Ian G.

On 10/02/2021 20:29, jan@... wrote:
Afro2swing style caught my ear and is really good and well made.


Re: A Real-Tracks INSTRUMENTS database

David H. Bailey
 

Sounds interesting -- but attachments are stripped for this group, so whatever "this" is did not make it to the group.

Instead, upload it to the files section of the band-in-a-box page at groups.io and then provide a link to it in a message to the group.

David

On 2/11/2021 7:47 AM, Robert Birkeland wrote:
WOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED IN A INSTRUMENTS DATABASE,,,,,?
In this way you can find out which instruments the different styles uses,
and what styles each instruments can fit into...
this is a short example of what you can see...here in xls-format
if this is converted to ACCESS then it would be more useful.
PG music have no database of what instruments they use for the styles-demos,
but in this way you will have full access
---
mvh/regards
Robert Birkeland , Bergen, NORWAY
www.filtermusik.dk
--
*****
David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@comcast.net
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com


Re: A Real-Tracks INSTRUMENTS database

Paul Chamberlain
 

Sounds interesting to me

 

From: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io <main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Birkeland
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:48 AM
To: main@band-in-a-box.groups.io
Subject: [Band-In-A-Box] a real-Tracks INSTRUMENTS database

 

WOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED IN A INSTRUMENTS DATABASE,,,,,?

In this way you can find out which instruments the different styles uses,

and what styles each instruments can fit into...

this is a short example of what you can see...here in xls-format

if this is converted to ACCESS then it would be more useful.

PG music have no database of what instruments they use for the styles-demos,

but in this way you will have full access

---

mvh/regards
Robert Birkeland , Bergen, NORWAY

 


A Real-Tracks INSTRUMENTS database

Robert Birkeland
 

WOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED IN A INSTRUMENTS DATABASE,,,,,?

In this way you can find out which instruments the different styles uses,

and what styles each instruments can fit into...

this is a short example of what you can see...here in xls-format

if this is converted to ACCESS then it would be more useful.

PG music have no database of what instruments they use for the styles-demos,

but in this way you will have full access

---
mvh/regards
Robert Birkeland , Bergen, NORWAY
www.filtermusik.dk
 


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

Michael Payne
 

Hi Ian  no playing audio modelling saxophone as a stand alone for the saxophone  akai 4000s also Yamaha wx5 wind controllers  using biab 2019 to learn music theory read your posts really helpful  excellent site thank you again michael 


On 11 Feb 2021, at 10:28, IAN GRAHAM via groups.io <idgraham@...> wrote:



Thank you for feeding back, Michael. I'm glad something worked for you.

Is this for a live-play midi line, or are you playing a midi file through it ?

Ian G.

On 11/02/2021 10:15, Michael Payne via groups.io wrote:
Hi Ian  thank you  for your suggestion  nanohost I finally reinstalled the saxophones with nanohost    Best wishes   Michael  (siena1)


On 10 Feb 2021, at 22:13, IAN GRAHAM via groups.io <idgraham@...> wrote:



Noted, Jan

I have a very soft spot for Abdullah Ibrahim. I wish 'someone' would do a township style.

Ian G.

On 10/02/2021 20:29, jan@... wrote:
Afro2swing style caught my ear and is really good and well made.


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

IAN GRAHAM
 

Thank you for feeding back, Michael. I'm glad something worked for you.

Is this for a live-play midi line, or are you playing a midi file through it ?

Ian G.

On 11/02/2021 10:15, Michael Payne via groups.io wrote:
Hi Ian  thank you  for your suggestion  nanohost I finally reinstalled the saxophones with nanohost    Best wishes   Michael  (siena1)


On 10 Feb 2021, at 22:13, IAN GRAHAM via groups.io <idgraham@...> wrote:



Noted, Jan

I have a very soft spot for Abdullah Ibrahim. I wish 'someone' would do a township style.

Ian G.

On 10/02/2021 20:29, jan@... wrote:
Afro2swing style caught my ear and is really good and well made.


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

Michael Payne
 

Hi Ian  thank you  for your suggestion  nanohost I finally reinstalled the saxophones with nanohost    Best wishes   Michael  (siena1)


On 10 Feb 2021, at 22:13, IAN GRAHAM via groups.io <idgraham@...> wrote:



Noted, Jan

I have a very soft spot for Abdullah Ibrahim. I wish 'someone' would do a township style.

Ian G.

On 10/02/2021 20:29, jan@... wrote:
Afro2swing style caught my ear and is really good and well made.


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

IAN GRAHAM
 

Noted, Jan

I have a very soft spot for Abdullah Ibrahim. I wish 'someone' would do a township style.

Ian G.

On 10/02/2021 20:29, jan@... wrote:
Afro2swing style caught my ear and is really good and well made.


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

@Dzjang
 

Afro2swing style caught my ear and is really good and well made.


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

Hayward Martin
 

Just wish I had the ability to slow down Henry somewhat.  It seems as though he's had a few too many cups of coffee prior to recording his videos.  🙄


From: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io <main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io> on behalf of D F Tweedie via groups.io <bienpegaito@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 12:41:35 PM
To: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io <main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Band-In-A-Box] Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks
 
Rodger

I love Rick Beato's channel!

There is a guy, Henry Clark, who is very active on the PG Music forum who has a lot of BIAB videos on YouTube. He focuses on creating entire tracks and songs, mostly covers. He's very entertaining.

DF

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021, 4:22:21 AM PST, Media Production <media_production@...> wrote:


This recent BIAB topic has created an amazing opportunity  for many to share their creative BIAB  workflows and applications.  It would be great to see

Videos on the way people are using BIAB and hear their final mixes.   And even better to listen to the custom styles and they styles that people tweak.

 

I’m actually surprised someone has not taken the lead to develop a BIAB You tube channel to showcase all the ways BIAB can be used.  This could create an opportunity for someone to build a big user base with subscribers on You tube and monetize their videos. 

 

I sometimes watch Rick Beato music videos on You tube and he is such an inspiration as a big leader in the success he has in monetizing his music videos on Youtube—I figured he is making a minimum of $50K a year just in You Tube ad sharing revenue---and it is a very minimal small effort in part-time  few hours a week in his interesting music critique videos and some music instruction in theory, songwriting, tolls and tips….such a inspiring business model to follow.

 

Rodger

 

From: IAN GRAHAM via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 1:35 AM
To: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Band-In-A-Box] Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

 

The sequence of  threads this past week or so has been one of the most enjoyable and enlightening I've ever shared, on any topic, on any group. A massive vindication of this group. Thank you, everyone. 

On Jan's specific point: my line of attack in Biab has up to now usually been to pursue some sort of vaguely-formulated feel or sound. Recent exchanges prompted an alternative thought, probably more appropriate to the limitations of my own musicianship: if there are 'good' styles in the way that Jan means, maybe I'd do better to agonise less over the choice of a style, or the assembly of a set of parts (take your point here too, Mr Norton), and simply try and accommodate my own line to that groove ?

Which leads on to a final practical point: Jan says "there are styles in there that are really intricate......" Would members like to flag up the styles they think meet this high standard of quality?

Sincerely

Ian G

Wales UK

On 10/02/2021 08:07, jan@... wrote:

I agree that most built in styles are mechanical, repetitive, bland. Nevertheless, there are styles in there that are really intricate.
pair them with good Kontakt libraries and you’d swear you heard a real band. 


As everyone seems to agree on: midi ain’t dead at all. 


Being really into ECM style jazz, Dejohnette, Joshua Redman, Joey Calderazzo, I came up with my own styles. Took me a long, long time to master stylemaking, but I am really proud of them. And enjoy playing with biab more, now. Even putting up with all the weirdness and bugs of it. :)

 


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

D F Tweedie
 

Rodger

I love Rick Beato's channel!

There is a guy, Henry Clark, who is very active on the PG Music forum who has a lot of BIAB videos on YouTube. He focuses on creating entire tracks and songs, mostly covers. He's very entertaining.

DF

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021, 4:22:21 AM PST, Media Production <media_production@...> wrote:


This recent BIAB topic has created an amazing opportunity  for many to share their creative BIAB  workflows and applications.  It would be great to see

Videos on the way people are using BIAB and hear their final mixes.   And even better to listen to the custom styles and they styles that people tweak.

 

I’m actually surprised someone has not taken the lead to develop a BIAB You tube channel to showcase all the ways BIAB can be used.  This could create an opportunity for someone to build a big user base with subscribers on You tube and monetize their videos. 

 

I sometimes watch Rick Beato music videos on You tube and he is such an inspiration as a big leader in the success he has in monetizing his music videos on Youtube—I figured he is making a minimum of $50K a year just in You Tube ad sharing revenue---and it is a very minimal small effort in part-time  few hours a week in his interesting music critique videos and some music instruction in theory, songwriting, tolls and tips….such a inspiring business model to follow.

 

Rodger

 

From: IAN GRAHAM via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 1:35 AM
To: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Band-In-A-Box] Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

 

The sequence of  threads this past week or so has been one of the most enjoyable and enlightening I've ever shared, on any topic, on any group. A massive vindication of this group. Thank you, everyone. 

On Jan's specific point: my line of attack in Biab has up to now usually been to pursue some sort of vaguely-formulated feel or sound. Recent exchanges prompted an alternative thought, probably more appropriate to the limitations of my own musicianship: if there are 'good' styles in the way that Jan means, maybe I'd do better to agonise less over the choice of a style, or the assembly of a set of parts (take your point here too, Mr Norton), and simply try and accommodate my own line to that groove ?

Which leads on to a final practical point: Jan says "there are styles in there that are really intricate......" Would members like to flag up the styles they think meet this high standard of quality?

Sincerely

Ian G

Wales UK

On 10/02/2021 08:07, jan@... wrote:

I agree that most built in styles are mechanical, repetitive, bland. Nevertheless, there are styles in there that are really intricate.
pair them with good Kontakt libraries and you’d swear you heard a real band. 


As everyone seems to agree on: midi ain’t dead at all. 


Being really into ECM style jazz, Dejohnette, Joshua Redman, Joey Calderazzo, I came up with my own styles. Took me a long, long time to master stylemaking, but I am really proud of them. And enjoy playing with biab more, now. Even putting up with all the weirdness and bugs of it. :)

 


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

nadpete@...
 

Hi Jan,

I add my own request to Rodger's: It would be great to hear your styles in action. I'm very intrigued by what you've created, but I'd like to hear a sample or two.

Peter


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

David H. Bailey
 

On 2/10/2021 7:22 AM, Media Production wrote:
This recent BIAB topic has created an amazing opportunity  for many to share their creative BIAB  workflows and applications.  It would be great to see
Videos on the way people are using BIAB and hear their final mixes. And even better to listen to the custom styles and they styles that people tweak.
I’m actually surprised someone has not taken the lead to develop a BIAB You tube channel to showcase all the ways BIAB can be used.  This could create an opportunity for someone to build a big user base with subscribers on You tube and monetize their videos.
[snip]


Great idea! Why don't you start it?


--
*****
David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@comcast.net
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

rob
 

great idea Rodger                                                                                 rob ! 

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021, 07:22:31 a.m. EST, Media Production <media_production@...> wrote:


This recent BIAB topic has created an amazing opportunity  for many to share their creative BIAB  workflows and applications.  It would be great to see

Videos on the way people are using BIAB and hear their final mixes.   And even better to listen to the custom styles and they styles that people tweak.

 

I’m actually surprised someone has not taken the lead to develop a BIAB You tube channel to showcase all the ways BIAB can be used.  This could create an opportunity for someone to build a big user base with subscribers on You tube and monetize their videos. 

 

I sometimes watch Rick Beato music videos on You tube and he is such an inspiration as a big leader in the success he has in monetizing his music videos on Youtube—I figured he is making a minimum of $50K a year just in You Tube ad sharing revenue---and it is a very minimal small effort in part-time  few hours a week in his interesting music critique videos and some music instruction in theory, songwriting, tolls and tips….such a inspiring business model to follow.

 

Rodger

 

From: IAN GRAHAM via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 1:35 AM
To: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Band-In-A-Box] Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

 

The sequence of  threads this past week or so has been one of the most enjoyable and enlightening I've ever shared, on any topic, on any group. A massive vindication of this group. Thank you, everyone. 

On Jan's specific point: my line of attack in Biab has up to now usually been to pursue some sort of vaguely-formulated feel or sound. Recent exchanges prompted an alternative thought, probably more appropriate to the limitations of my own musicianship: if there are 'good' styles in the way that Jan means, maybe I'd do better to agonise less over the choice of a style, or the assembly of a set of parts (take your point here too, Mr Norton), and simply try and accommodate my own line to that groove ?

Which leads on to a final practical point: Jan says "there are styles in there that are really intricate......" Would members like to flag up the styles they think meet this high standard of quality?

Sincerely

Ian G

Wales UK

On 10/02/2021 08:07, jan@... wrote:

I agree that most built in styles are mechanical, repetitive, bland. Nevertheless, there are styles in there that are really intricate.
pair them with good Kontakt libraries and you’d swear you heard a real band. 


As everyone seems to agree on: midi ain’t dead at all. 


Being really into ECM style jazz, Dejohnette, Joshua Redman, Joey Calderazzo, I came up with my own styles. Took me a long, long time to master stylemaking, but I am really proud of them. And enjoy playing with biab more, now. Even putting up with all the weirdness and bugs of it. :)

 


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

Media Production
 

This recent BIAB topic has created an amazing opportunity  for many to share their creative BIAB  workflows and applications.  It would be great to see

Videos on the way people are using BIAB and hear their final mixes.   And even better to listen to the custom styles and they styles that people tweak.

 

I’m actually surprised someone has not taken the lead to develop a BIAB You tube channel to showcase all the ways BIAB can be used.  This could create an opportunity for someone to build a big user base with subscribers on You tube and monetize their videos. 

 

I sometimes watch Rick Beato music videos on You tube and he is such an inspiration as a big leader in the success he has in monetizing his music videos on Youtube—I figured he is making a minimum of $50K a year just in You Tube ad sharing revenue---and it is a very minimal small effort in part-time  few hours a week in his interesting music critique videos and some music instruction in theory, songwriting, tolls and tips….such a inspiring business model to follow.

 

Rodger

 

From: IAN GRAHAM via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 1:35 AM
To: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Band-In-A-Box] Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

 

The sequence of  threads this past week or so has been one of the most enjoyable and enlightening I've ever shared, on any topic, on any group. A massive vindication of this group. Thank you, everyone. 

On Jan's specific point: my line of attack in Biab has up to now usually been to pursue some sort of vaguely-formulated feel or sound. Recent exchanges prompted an alternative thought, probably more appropriate to the limitations of my own musicianship: if there are 'good' styles in the way that Jan means, maybe I'd do better to agonise less over the choice of a style, or the assembly of a set of parts (take your point here too, Mr Norton), and simply try and accommodate my own line to that groove ?

Which leads on to a final practical point: Jan says "there are styles in there that are really intricate......" Would members like to flag up the styles they think meet this high standard of quality?

Sincerely

Ian G

Wales UK

On 10/02/2021 08:07, jan@... wrote:

I agree that most built in styles are mechanical, repetitive, bland. Nevertheless, there are styles in there that are really intricate.
pair them with good Kontakt libraries and you’d swear you heard a real band. 


As everyone seems to agree on: midi ain’t dead at all. 


Being really into ECM style jazz, Dejohnette, Joshua Redman, Joey Calderazzo, I came up with my own styles. Took me a long, long time to master stylemaking, but I am really proud of them. And enjoy playing with biab more, now. Even putting up with all the weirdness and bugs of it. :)

 


Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

IAN GRAHAM
 

The sequence of  threads this past week or so has been one of the most enjoyable and enlightening I've ever shared, on any topic, on any group. A massive vindication of this group. Thank you, everyone. 

On Jan's specific point: my line of attack in Biab has up to now usually been to pursue some sort of vaguely-formulated feel or sound. Recent exchanges prompted an alternative thought, probably more appropriate to the limitations of my own musicianship: if there are 'good' styles in the way that Jan means, maybe I'd do better to agonise less over the choice of a style, or the assembly of a set of parts (take your point here too, Mr Norton), and simply try and accommodate my own line to that groove ?

Which leads on to a final practical point: Jan says "there are styles in there that are really intricate......" Would members like to flag up the styles they think meet this high standard of quality?

Sincerely

Ian G

Wales UK

On 10/02/2021 08:07, jan@... wrote:

I agree that most built in styles are mechanical, repetitive, bland. Nevertheless, there are styles in there that are really intricate.
pair them with good Kontakt libraries and you’d swear you heard a real band. 


As everyone seems to agree on: midi ain’t dead at all. 


Being really into ECM style jazz, Dejohnette, Joshua Redman, Joey Calderazzo, I came up with my own styles. Took me a long, long time to master stylemaking, but I am really proud of them. And enjoy playing with biab more, now. Even putting up with all the weirdness and bugs of it. :)



Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

IAN GRAHAM
 

Lucid ! Thanks, Bob !

On 09/02/2021 21:08, Bob 'Notes' Norton wrote:
I'm not fond of humanizing at all. "Humanizing" moves the notes around in a random fashion controlled only by how much you let them vary from their starting point. To me randomizing does nothing but increase the slop factor.

For most modern popular forms of music, the musicians do not play in sync with the tempo as if they are step-entered, but whether consciously or unconsciously play certain notes intentionally either ahead or behind the beat. It's consistent and not random at all.

Example 1: Swing is somewhere between a triplet and a dotted eights / sixteenth note rhythm. But how much? Some gentle swings are closer to the triplet and some are closer to the dotted eighth / sixteenth. It depends on the song and the interpretation of that song. And if mixing two real tracks with different swing factors, what you get is a sloppy band.

Example 2: Beat 2 and 4 of a 4/4 tempo song. Sometimes beat 2 and 4 are rushed ahead of the beat, sometimes they lag behind the beat. And again how much ahead or behind? The entire band needs to be together. So if mixing two real tracks that don't have the 2s and 4s in the same place, you get slop.

Example 3: Beat 2 of a 3/4 song is often rushed ahead of the beat. When I was in school band, the band director played different recordings of Strauss Waltzes by different orchestras to demonstrate how different conductors rushed that second beat by different amounts. It was my first introduction to what we call the groove in popular music.

Example 4: Eighth notes are often not played exactly equal either. When you step enter a single stroke roll on a snare drum it sounds like a machine drum. Real drummers have one hand stronger than the other so one is more aggressive than the other. Plus one hits harder and on a slightly different part of the drum head. Similarly guitarists usually have more force on a down-stroke than an up-stroke. I could go on and on.

Example 5: When the bassist and drummer are in sync, if the bass player plays a microsecond ahead of the kick drum, it emphasizes the notes of the bass line. Conversely if the bass lags the kick drum a hair, the thud of the kick drum is emphasized. Crash cymbals are usually hit a hair early for that same reason. Humanizing would ruin all of this.

Leilani and I took ballroom dancing because what better way to see which beats or sub-beats should be rushed or delayed than to dance the appropriate dances? When the groove is right, it moves the dancers, when the dancers are moved, they have a great time, and when they have a great time, they re-hire the band. The result was when we worked on the cruise ships, there was a 20 piece orchestra that played ballroom dance music, but the ballroom dancers would come to dance with us.

Leilani already knew how to do most popular dances so we had that under control from the start.

In the recording studio, the drummer sets the groove. The drummer is the king/queen of the groove, and all the other players must listen to the drummer's groove and sync in with it, if not, they won't be called back for another session. If two different real tracks are playing to a different groove, you get beautiful tone but not beautiful music.

Humanizing is randomizing. The groove is deliberate, and it breathes life into the music.

There is a lot that takes these notes and turns them into something that touches the listener. Rhythm is one piece of the puzzle, perhaps the most basic. After that we have dynamics, phrasing, ornaments, and quite a few others. Having a life of music is a life of learning, and that's one of the things I love about it. No matter how much I learn, there is always a new discovery ahead, whether I make it on my own, I learn it from a master, or I learn it from a student (and a good teacher always learns from students).

>>>»»»O«««<<<
Bob "Notes" Norton • owner, Norton Music • http://www.nortonmusic.com
BiaB user styles with live entered parts for that live music groove for musicians who want BiaB to sound like real musicians and not robots.


On 2/8/2021 8:50 PM, D F Tweedie via groups.io wrote:
Almost all competent DAWs contain MIDI plugins or features in the track headers to introduce 'humanizing' into the MIDI playback of a track. They do this by including parameters, for examples, that permit you to choose ranges for timing, note length, velocity, etc., in random manner that changes 'mechanical' note entry into something more interesting.

This does not take into account the additional 'massaging' that can be accomplished through a DAW's MIDI editor.



Re: Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

Media Production
 

Hi Jan—

 

Can you share some links to your BIAB productions where you used your own styles…….it would be great to hear your productions.

 

Rodger

 

 

From: jan@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 12:08 AM
To: main@Band-In-A-Box.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Band-In-A-Box] Midi vs Real Tracks (cont'd) #RealTracks

 

I agree that most built in styles are mechanical, repetitive, bland. Nevertheless, there are styles in there that are really intricate.
pair them with good Kontakt libraries and you’d swear you heard a real band. 


As everyone seems to agree on: midi ain’t dead at all. 


Being really into ECM style jazz, Dejohnette, Joshua Redman, Joey Calderazzo, I came up with my own styles. Took me a long, long time to master stylemaking, but I am really proud of them. And enjoy playing with biab more, now. Even putting up with all the weirdness and bugs of it. :)

 

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