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Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Dave Nuttall
 

Rodger,
I am a long-time user of Song Surgeon and expect to begin being a part of the beta-testers for release 5.x.

Song Surgeon and their parallel program "Download Surgeon" capture streaming audio and video.   But so will the free/open-source program Audacity.   In fact, Audacity on a Mac with "Soundflower" is equal or better than Song Surgeon or Download Surgeon in terms of what I call "purity" of the sound captured.   It may be my Windows computer (Win 10/64) but sometimes if I capture on Windows, the audio has extraneous "stuff", jitter sometimes when a background process starts or ends, or who knows.   I've captured hundreds of hours of audio on the Mac and have never encountered the "stuff" that I seem to encounter with Windows.

The current version of Song Surgeon doesn't compete well with Riffmaster Pro when it comes to slowing songs without changing pitch.   However, Transcribe from 7th String Software is REALLY good at the slow-down thing.   Transcribe also tries to identify notes/chords.   It is OK, but hopefully the new version of Song Surgeon will have mastered both "needs" (slow/tempo change and pitch/chord identification).

A realistic outlook, based on my current knowledge/experience is that Riffmaster Pro may be a good tool, but until you can try Song Surgeon 5.x or compare Transcribe, you may be best advised to master Audacity for capture, especially if you can use a Mac with Soundflower.

No matter what you use to capture, if it sounds clean, save it as WAV to avoid adding to whatever compression was invoked at the origin.   You'll also find that when you slow down a captured track, whether with Song Surgeon, Transcribe, Riffmaster Pro, et al, you'll be more likely to be satisfied than if you saved disk space and compressed your captures to MP3.   What was originally perhaps say 128kbps in the stream could like be a lot less when you compress the captured stream to MP3, even though your software says it is saving to 320kbps.

Just my $0.02.
PM me to explore nuances of the above.
Dave


On 2/26/2017 2:46 PM, 'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
 

Thank you DF.  Yikers about having to download a adware or variant browser search engine.  I tried going to http://www.listentoyoutube.com/   that Ian suggested but the URL is not working.  Maybe there is converter out there that does not  require adware or browser search engine download.
 
Another reason I wanted to convert youtube songs to Mp3 is so it can work with Riffmaster pro-  supposedly this software filters out other music track and you can hear the certain music tracks more isolated and slow it down without affecting pitch.  Does anyone have feedback about  Riffmaster pro and or its competitor Song Surgeon.
 
Or is there a better software out there for this.
 
Rodger
 
 
 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 

Rodger ...
 
The more or less simple answer. First, let me say that I am not sure of what type of audio file compression is used by YouTube. Regardless, whether it is MP3 or something else, there are no files to be downloaded: it is a streaming service.
 
There are several websites that generally in exchange for installing some type of adware or variant browser search engine in your browser, have the ability to capture the stream from YouTube or AFAIK any streaming audio and then convert it to an MP3 file, which you can download. As I said before, even it they provided downloading WAV files, the actual audio quality could not be improved over that of the original compressed file used for the streaming that they have captured..
 
These generally work by having you paste the URL of site streaming the audio into a little applet on your browser.
 
They are not difficult to use, but I personally found it bothersome to have the program interfere with my lean mean browsing.
 
And, I already get plenty of ads through my web email accounts ... thank you very much!
 
DF



From: "'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
I think this group has excellent people like DF and David Bailey who add information on topics with great precision and detail expanding the scope of the topic or questions at hand.   This is how threads expand into other related subject matter that enables more “tool set power” in the
creative workflow. 
 
I hope there are not people giving negative critiques when others are offering additional information. When criticism is made to people for offering additional information it creates an atmosphere where people are afraid to post or lurkers do not come forward. 
 
This is a great list that David Bailey created and there are all types of people in here.  Some use 3rd party DAW’s, some use Real Band some do not,
Some do not use DAW’s, some are pro some are not pro.
 
There is a diverse range of users and this list is so wonderful and helpful. This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Hi. In reply ,the question was smokey Robinson tunes . Not the quality of the tune in biab .as you know biab is not without its faults .most. Musicians ,use a more pro daw ,but for fun and the large database of songs biab is excellent Best wishes. Siena



> On 25 Feb 2017, at 23:55, D F Tweedie bienpegaito@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
>
> DF





Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Neal Walters
 

Google YouTube to MP-3 Converter and you'll come up with at least a dozen hits or so ... here's the first one that came up for me ...

Instructions
  1. Copy and paste the video link that you want to convert.
  2. Select ".mp3" in the format field.
  3. Click the "Start" button to initiate the conversion.
  4. When the conversion is done, download the file from the link provided.



Neal Walters
Doofus Music/Basement Music
12228 Hollowell Church Rd, Greencastle, PA 17225



On 2/26/2017 3:57 PM, D F Tweedie bienpegaito@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
 
FWIW ...

You can always play YouTube on your cellphone or iPad/ Android Tablet; take the audio out of the headphone jack; route it into your computer (or cellphone to tablet) using a 1/8 type double male plug and any patching converter you might need, e.g., stereo mini jack to RCA y cable; and, record it.

DF



From: "'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

 
Thank you DF.  Yikers about having to download a adware or variant browser search engine.  I tried going to http://www.listentoyoutube.com/   that Ian suggested but the URL is not working.  Maybe there is converter out there that does not  require adware or browser search engine download.
 
Another reason I wanted to convert youtube songs to Mp3 is so it can work with Riffmaster pro-  supposedly this software filters out other music track and you can hear the certain music tracks more isolated and slow it down without affecting pitch.  Does anyone have feedback about  Riffmaster pro and or its competitor Song Surgeon.
 
Or is there a better software out there for this.
 
Rodger
 
 
 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Rodger ...
 
The more or less simple answer. First, let me say that I am not sure of what type of audio file compression is used by YouTube. Regardless, whether it is MP3 or something else, there are no files to be downloaded: it is a streaming service.
 
There are several websites that generally in exchange for installing some type of adware or variant browser search engine in your browser, have the ability to capture the stream from YouTube or AFAIK any streaming audio and then convert it to an MP3 file, which you can download. As I said before, even it they provided downloading WAV files, the actual audio quality could not be improved over that of the original compressed file used for the streaming that they have captured..
 
These generally work by having you paste the URL of site streaming the audio into a little applet on your browser.
 
They are not difficult to use, but I personally found it bothersome to have the program interfere with my lean mean browsing.
 
And, I already get plenty of ads through my web email accounts ... thank you very much!
 
DF



From: "'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
I think this group has excellent people like DF and David Bailey who add information on topics with great precision and detail expanding the scope of the topic or questions at hand.   This is how threads expand into other related subject matter that enables more “tool set power” in the
creative workflow. 
 
I hope there are not people giving negative critiques when others are offering additional information. When criticism is made to people for offering additional information it creates an atmosphere where people are afraid to post or lurkers do not come forward. 
 
This is a great list that David Bailey created and there are all types of people in here.  Some use 3rd party DAW’s, some use Real Band some do not,
Some do not use DAW’s, some are pro some are not pro.
 
There is a diverse range of users and this list is so wonderful and helpful. This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Hi. In reply ,the question was smokey Robinson tunes . Not the quality of the tune in biab .as you know biab is not without its faults .most. Musicians ,use a more pro daw ,but for fun and the large database of songs biab is excellent Best wishes. Siena

Sent from my iPad

> On 25 Feb 2017, at 23:55, D F Tweedie bienpegaito@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
>
> DF







Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

D F Tweedie
 

FWIW ...

You can always play YouTube on your cellphone or iPad/ Android Tablet; take the audio out of the headphone jack; route it into your computer (or cellphone to tablet) using a 1/8 type double male plug and any patching converter you might need, e.g., stereo mini jack to RCA y cable; and, record it.

DF



From: "'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

 
Thank you DF.  Yikers about having to download a adware or variant browser search engine.  I tried going to http://www.listentoyoutube.com/   that Ian suggested but the URL is not working.  Maybe there is converter out there that does not  require adware or browser search engine download.
 
Another reason I wanted to convert youtube songs to Mp3 is so it can work with Riffmaster pro-  supposedly this software filters out other music track and you can hear the certain music tracks more isolated and slow it down without affecting pitch.  Does anyone have feedback about  Riffmaster pro and or its competitor Song Surgeon.
 
Or is there a better software out there for this.
 
Rodger
 
 
 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Rodger ...
 
The more or less simple answer. First, let me say that I am not sure of what type of audio file compression is used by YouTube. Regardless, whether it is MP3 or something else, there are no files to be downloaded: it is a streaming service.
 
There are several websites that generally in exchange for installing some type of adware or variant browser search engine in your browser, have the ability to capture the stream from YouTube or AFAIK any streaming audio and then convert it to an MP3 file, which you can download. As I said before, even it they provided downloading WAV files, the actual audio quality could not be improved over that of the original compressed file used for the streaming that they have captured..
 
These generally work by having you paste the URL of site streaming the audio into a little applet on your browser.
 
They are not difficult to use, but I personally found it bothersome to have the program interfere with my lean mean browsing.
 
And, I already get plenty of ads through my web email accounts ... thank you very much!
 
DF



From: "'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
I think this group has excellent people like DF and David Bailey who add information on topics with great precision and detail expanding the scope of the topic or questions at hand.   This is how threads expand into other related subject matter that enables more “tool set power” in the
creative workflow. 
 
I hope there are not people giving negative critiques when others are offering additional information. When criticism is made to people for offering additional information it creates an atmosphere where people are afraid to post or lurkers do not come forward. 
 
This is a great list that David Bailey created and there are all types of people in here.  Some use 3rd party DAW’s, some use Real Band some do not,
Some do not use DAW’s, some are pro some are not pro.
 
There is a diverse range of users and this list is so wonderful and helpful. This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Hi. In reply ,the question was smokey Robinson tunes . Not the quality of the tune in biab .as you know biab is not without its faults .most. Musicians ,use a more pro daw ,but for fun and the large database of songs biab is excellent Best wishes. Siena



> On 25 Feb 2017, at 23:55, D F Tweedie bienpegaito@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
>
> DF






Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Media Production
 

Thank you DF.  Yikers about having to download a adware or variant browser search engine.  I tried going to http://www.listentoyoutube.com/   that Ian suggested but the URL is not working.  Maybe there is converter out there that does not  require adware or browser search engine download.
 
Another reason I wanted to convert youtube songs to Mp3 is so it can work with Riffmaster pro-  supposedly this software filters out other music track and you can hear the certain music tracks more isolated and slow it down without affecting pitch.  Does anyone have feedback about  Riffmaster pro and or its competitor Song Surgeon.
 
Or is there a better software out there for this.
 
Rodger
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 

Rodger ...
 
The more or less simple answer. First, let me say that I am not sure of what type of audio file compression is used by YouTube. Regardless, whether it is MP3 or something else, there are no files to be downloaded: it is a streaming service.
 
There are several websites that generally in exchange for installing some type of adware or variant browser search engine in your browser, have the ability to capture the stream from YouTube or AFAIK any streaming audio and then convert it to an MP3 file, which you can download. As I said before, even it they provided downloading WAV files, the actual audio quality could not be improved over that of the original compressed file used for the streaming that they have captured..
 
These generally work by having you paste the URL of site streaming the audio into a little applet on your browser.
 
They are not difficult to use, but I personally found it bothersome to have the program interfere with my lean mean browsing.
 
And, I already get plenty of ads through my web email accounts ... thank you very much!
 
DF



From: "'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
I think this group has excellent people like DF and David Bailey who add information on topics with great precision and detail expanding the scope of the topic or questions at hand.   This is how threads expand into other related subject matter that enables more “tool set power” in the
creative workflow. 
 
I hope there are not people giving negative critiques when others are offering additional information. When criticism is made to people for offering additional information it creates an atmosphere where people are afraid to post or lurkers do not come forward. 
 
This is a great list that David Bailey created and there are all types of people in here.  Some use 3rd party DAW’s, some use Real Band some do not,
Some do not use DAW’s, some are pro some are not pro.
 
There is a diverse range of users and this list is so wonderful and helpful. This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Hi. In reply ,the question was smokey Robinson tunes . Not the quality of the tune in biab .as you know biab is not without its faults .most. Musicians ,use a more pro daw ,but for fun and the large database of songs biab is excellent Best wishes. Siena



> On 25 Feb 2017, at 23:55, D F Tweedie bienpegaito@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
>
> DF




Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

D F Tweedie
 

Rodger ...

The more or less simple answer. First, let me say that I am not sure of what type of audio file compression is used by YouTube. Regardless, whether it is MP3 or something else, there are no files to be downloaded: it is a streaming service.

There are several websites that generally in exchange for installing some type of adware or variant browser search engine in your browser, have the ability to capture the stream from YouTube or AFAIK any streaming audio and then convert it to an MP3 file, which you can download. As I said before, even it they provided downloading WAV files, the actual audio quality could not be improved over that of the original compressed file used for the streaming that they have captured..

These generally work by having you paste the URL of site streaming the audio into a little applet on your browser.

They are not difficult to use, but I personally found it bothersome to have the program interfere with my lean mean browsing.

And, I already get plenty of ads through my web email accounts ... thank you very much!

DF



From: "'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

 
This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
I think this group has excellent people like DF and David Bailey who add information on topics with great precision and detail expanding the scope of the topic or questions at hand.   This is how threads expand into other related subject matter that enables more “tool set power” in the
creative workflow. 
 
I hope there are not people giving negative critiques when others are offering additional information. When criticism is made to people for offering additional information it creates an atmosphere where people are afraid to post or lurkers do not come forward. 
 
This is a great list that David Bailey created and there are all types of people in here.  Some use 3rd party DAW’s, some use Real Band some do not,
Some do not use DAW’s, some are pro some are not pro.
 
There is a diverse range of users and this list is so wonderful and helpful. This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Hi. In reply ,the question was smokey Robinson tunes . Not the quality of the tune in biab .as you know biab is not without its faults .most. Musicians ,use a more pro daw ,but for fun and the large database of songs biab is excellent. Best wishes. Siena



> On 25 Feb 2017, at 23:55, D F Tweedie bienpegaito@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
>
> DF




Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Media Production
 

This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
I think this group has excellent people like DF and David Bailey who add information on topics with great precision and detail expanding the scope of the topic or questions at hand.   This is how threads expand into other related subject matter that enables more “tool set power” in the
creative workflow. 
 
I hope there are not people giving negative critiques when others are offering additional information. When criticism is made to people for offering additional information it creates an atmosphere where people are afraid to post or lurkers do not come forward. 
 
This is a great list that David Bailey created and there are all types of people in here.  Some use 3rd party DAW’s, some use Real Band some do not,
Some do not use DAW’s, some are pro some are not pro.
 
There is a diverse range of users and this list is so wonderful and helpful. This list certainly does not need people bashing others for giving ideas and suggestions.
 
Rodger
 

Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 

Hi. In reply ,the question was smokey Robinson tunes . Not the quality of the tune in biab .as you know biab is not without its faults .most. Musicians ,use a more pro daw ,but for fun and the large database of songs biab is excellent. Best wishes. Siena



> On 25 Feb 2017, at 23:55, D F Tweedie bienpegaito@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
>
> DF


Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Media Production
 

I thought you tube songs were already in mp3 file format.  Why do you need a converter?  Can you explain the procedures to do this conversion.  Youtube  gui is rather  cumbersome to navigate to make copies and copy files.
 
Rodger
 

Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 

You can have YouTube files converted to MP3 files by using this free converter at http://www.listentoyoutube.com/.  It's very easy to use  You just copy and paste the URL of the YouTube fie you want converted and it informs you when the MP3 file is ready to download.
 
Ian Cuthbertson
 
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 12:40 PM, 'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:
 
Is it possible to save Youtube songs as a wave file or only as Mpeg?
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Hi lots of smokey Robinsons material on YouTube if you save as MPs  you can import into biab. Then with chord wizard  display chords   Good luck.   Siena

Sent from my iPad

On 18 Feb 2017, at 01:26, john@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:

 

I am new to the Group, I am looking for Hall and Oats and a lot of Smokey Robinson's songs,

for biab

thanks in advance for any help


 


Re: (drum) Style suggestion, please

D F Tweedie
 

I am probably stating the obvious, but MIDI is your friend.

If you find one of the older, non-RD styles simpatico, you can massage it in RealBand or your sequencer of choice. You can even take a swing style and straighten it out easily with quantization. Then of course you can thin out the drum hits, change the velocity and voice the different drums as you please.

As an aside, while I do find some of the RealDrums sound really good, I wish that the individual drums were available instead of a mixed down track. Then you could massage and process them, e.g., lower the volume, change the eq, etc., to tailor a drum track to your liking.

Presumably this would be an easy thing for BIAB to do as they already undoubtedly record the drums multitrack.



From: "'Ian Graham' idgraham@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:22 AM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] (drum) Style suggestion, please

 
Hallo, group
 
I wonder if anyone can help me with this ?
 
I'm trying to find a drum style which is Ev rather than Sw, but still (a) definitely jazz and not rock/country/funk and (b) not Latin, and also (c) just a bit (well, quite a lot, actually) quieter than what I've found so far, in a fairly extensive search of the Stylefinder and the Real Drums style picker.
 
The  RD Jazz Even 8, for example, has a very busy 'front sound' on the drums, and two heavy back beats, though the ride is pretty much what I'd like. I'd like something rather more 'swirly' - and even the RD Ev brushes is actually quite thumpy.
 
Not that RD are essential. A midi route would at least offer the possibility of editing if necessary.
 
Any ideas much appreciated.
 
Ian G
Wales UK
 
 
 
 



Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

D F Tweedie
 

Sorry if I hijacked the thread, but Hall and Oates and Smokey Robinson tunes were not the only questions asked.

Someone commented that the songs could be captured from YouTube as MP3s and then be turned into BIAB songs by using the chord analyzer,. Whereupon someone else asked if the YouTube videos could also be saved as WAV files.

I was answering that last person, whose email I believe is something like 'musicproduction.'






From: "Michael Payne sienarcm14899@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

 
Hi. In reply ,the question was smokey Robinson tunes . Not the quality of the tune in biab .as you know biab is not without its faults .most. Musicians ,use a more pro daw ,but for fun and the large database of songs biab is excellent. Best wishes. Siena



> On 25 Feb 2017, at 23:55, D F Tweedie bienpegaito@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
>
> DF




(drum) Style suggestion, please

IAN GRAHAM
 

Hallo, group
 
I wonder if anyone can help me with this ?
 
I'm trying to find a drum style which is Ev rather than Sw, but still (a) definitely jazz and not rock/country/funk and (b) not Latin, and also (c) just a bit (well, quite a lot, actually) quieter than what I've found so far, in a fairly extensive search of the Stylefinder and the Real Drums style picker.
 
The  RD Jazz Even 8, for example, has a very busy 'front sound' on the drums, and two heavy back beats, though the ride is pretty much what I'd like. I'd like something rather more 'swirly' - and even the RD Ev brushes is actually quite thumpy.
 
Not that RD are essential. A midi route would at least offer the possibility of editing if necessary.
 
Any ideas much appreciated.
 
Ian G
Wales UK
 
 
 
 


Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Michael Payne
 

Hi. In reply ,the question was smokey Robinson tunes . Not the quality of the tune in biab .as you know biab is not without its faults .most. Musicians ,use a more pro daw ,but for fun and the large database of songs biab is excellent. Best wishes. Siena

On 25 Feb 2017, at 23:55, D F Tweedie bienpegaito@yahoo.com [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

DF


Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

D F Tweedie
 

Remember this: any file converted to a higher resolution will have no better sonic quality than the file it was converted from.

YouTube, to the best of my knowledge, uses highly compressed audio. The quality of MP3 files themselves vary depending upon which conversion was originally used, e.g. .,, 128, 192, 256, 320 bit rate.

So, the only reason to 'upgrade' convert an audio file is in order to be able to use it on another platform ... as inside a DAW, for one example.

That said, when importing a compressed file like an MP3 to a DAW, it will generally automatically convert it to a WAV file ... so you really don't need bother.

Coming back to YouTube, in one sense you can never get the WAV quality file, if by that you mean a CD quality 44.1k 16 bit audio file. To my knowledge the only service currently streaming audio at that quality is Tidal.

On a MAC using Soundflower you can setup an aggregate device to directly record any streaming service as a WAV file, but, as above, it may be in the form of a WAV file, but it will have no better audio quality than the quality at which it was originally streamed. Think of taking a really high quality photo with a Canon or Nikon of a Polaroid snapshot. Those cameras can faithfully reproduce ... a bad picture. They can't improve it.

Windows doesn't have the ability to use aggregate device, but some higher end devices like those from RME permit 'foldback' of one channel into another so that you could have the input of one channel, the streaming audio, sent as output on another channel in order to record the streaming.

DF



From: "'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box]"
To: Band-in-a-Box@...
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

 
Is it possible to save Youtube songs as a wave file or only as Mpeg?
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Hi lots of smokey Robinsons material on YouTube if you save as MPs  you can import into biab. Then with chord wizard  display chords   Good luck.   Siena


On 18 Feb 2017, at 01:26, john@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:

 
I am new to the Group, I am looking for Hall and Oats and a lot of Smokey Robinson's songs,

for biab

thanks in advance for any help




Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Michael Payne
 

Hi wav or MP3 


On 25 Feb 2017, at 17:40, 'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:

 

Is it possible to save Youtube songs as a wave file or only as Mpeg?
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 

Hi lots of smokey Robinsons material on YouTube if you save as MPs  you can import into biab. Then with chord wizard  display chords   Good luck.   Siena


On 18 Feb 2017, at 01:26, john@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:

 

I am new to the Group, I am looking for Hall and Oats and a lot of Smokey Robinson's songs,

for biab

thanks in advance for any help



Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Nagyolah Attila
 

Youtube songs to wave file






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Tárgy: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

 
You can have YouTube files converted to MP3 files by using this free converter at http://www.listentoyoutube.com/.  It's very easy to use.  You just copy and paste the URL of the YouTube fie you want converted and it informs you when the MP3 file is ready to download.

Ian Cuthbertson

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 12:40 PM, 'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:
 
Is it possible to save Youtube songs as a wave file or only as Mpeg?
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 
Hi lots of smokey Robinsons material on YouTube if you save as MPs  you can import into biab. Then with chord wizard  display chords   Good luck.   Siena


On 18 Feb 2017, at 01:26, john@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@... > wrote:

 
I am new to the Group, I am looking for Hall and Oats and a lot of Smokey Robinson's songs,

for biab

thanks in advance for any help





Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Ian Cuthbertson
 

You can have YouTube files converted to MP3 files by using this free converter at http://www.listentoyoutube.com/.  It's very easy to use.  You just copy and paste the URL of the YouTube fie you want converted and it informs you when the MP3 file is ready to download.

Ian Cuthbertson

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 12:40 PM, 'media production' media_production@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:
 

Is it possible to save Youtube songs as a wave file or only as Mpeg?
 
Rodger
 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 

Hi lots of smokey Robinsons material on YouTube if you save as MPs  you can import into biab. Then with chord wizard  display chords   Good luck.   Siena


On 18 Feb 2017, at 01:26, john@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:

 

I am new to the Group, I am looking for Hall and Oats and a lot of Smokey Robinson's songs,

for biab

thanks in advance for any help




Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Media Production
 

Is it possible to save Youtube songs as a wave file or only as Mpeg?
 
Rodger
 

Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs
 
 

Hi lots of smokey Robinsons material on YouTube if you save as MPs  you can import into biab. Then with chord wizard  display chords   Good luck.   Siena


On 18 Feb 2017, at 01:26, john@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:

 

I am new to the Group, I am looking for Hall and Oats and a lot of Smokey Robinson's songs,

for biab

thanks in advance for any help



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On Saturday, February 25, 2017 10:54 AM, "kowalewskifelishacpy@... [Band-in-a-Box]" wrote:


 
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On Saturday, February 11, 2017 10:31 AM, "kowalewskifelishacpy@... [Band-in-a-Box]" wrote:


 
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On Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:48 AM, "patinoardithpui@... [Band-in-a-Box]" wrote:


 
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On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:12 AM, "Peter Smith reedie19@... [Band-in-a-Box]"


 
Thanks to David and Blake for your advice.
In the hope of short circuiting what might prove to be a very protracted process I've just asked PG if they have any advice.  If anything useful comes of it I'll post it here.
Thanks.

On 17/01/2017 11:05, 'David H. Bailey' dhbailey52@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
 
On 1/17/2017 5:16 AM, Blake Travis bktelt@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
>
>
> Cleaning files off of a computer is much like cleaning out a garage.
> Once you throw out or sell an item that you haven't used in 20 years.
> you will need it a week later! But I would reverse the order of your
> backup. Make a copy of everything before you start hitting the delete
> button. Then it's just a slow deliberate time consuming effort to
> eliminate unwanted junk. If you find that you have eliminated something
> you need, it's in your backup and can be restored. Good luck.
>

To Blake's great advice, I would add: Once you think you've got it as
you want it, make another backup, this time of your newly organized BB
folder, under a different name and live with your newly organized BB
folder for a long time to be sure you actually have everything you want,
then you can delete the original backup Blake is suggesting you make.

Regarding all the various styles you have found yourself with, if the
files have the same names as others you have, my advice is to do an A/B
listening test using the same song file but changing between the two
styles. Then keep only the version you prefer, even if it's got an
older date. With a large number of styles that you have, that will take
some time, but it's better to take the time and not be sorry you lost
something you really liked.

--
*****
David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@...
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com










Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

kowalewskifelishacpy@...
 

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On Saturday, February 25, 2017 1:24 PM, "Michael Payne sienarcm14899@... [Band-in-a-Box]" wrote:


 
Hi lots of smokey Robinsons material on YouTube if you save as MPs  you can import into biab. Then with chord wizard  display chords   Good luck.   Siena 


On 18 Feb 2017, at 01:26, john@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:

 
I am new to the Group, I am looking for Hall and Oats and a lot of Smokey Robinson's songs,

for biab

thanks in advance for any help




Re: Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

Michael Payne
 

Hi lots of smokey Robinsons material on YouTube if you save as MPs  you can import into biab. Then with chord wizard  display chords   Good luck.   Siena 


On 18 Feb 2017, at 01:26, john@... [Band-in-a-Box] <Band-in-a-Box@...> wrote:

 

I am new to the Group, I am looking for Hall and Oats and a lot of Smokey Robinson's songs,

for biab

thanks in advance for any help



Hall and Oats and Smokey Robinsons songs

John Sotirakos
 

I am new to the Group, I am looking for Hall and Oats and a lot of Smokey Robinson's songs,

for biab

thanks in advance for any help


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