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Styles and Macs/This is how to change those PC style files to Mac files

vstguy@...
 

Sometimes you have to change those PC style files to Mac style files because the Mac version of B in a B
can't see those styles created by our PC friends.

You simply change the file type and file creator.

There are Mac programmes such as FileBuddy and Snitch that make it very easy.

My strong recommendation here is don't use apple'sRES-Edit, its overkill for this job.

I have often wondered why those PG guys have never provided a drag/drop file type/creator changer for
Mac users.


Re: New poll for Band-in-a-Box

jonathanreed@...
 

Hi,

As a warning to all, I am now on my soap box. :-)

In regards to taking a poll to see if a manufacturer (PG Music) of a
product (BIAB) should support its users/customers.

As the guy on TV say's "Give me a Break!"

The biggest complaint (and I have quite a few about PG music) that I
have with PG music is there has not been any comunication from them in
regards to upgrades. Its been over two years! They charged me as a Mac
user the same price and do not provide the same service as the PC
side.

If they are not going to provide equal customer service for their
product all they need to do is let me know and I will take my business
elsewhere. After all that is the best way to get your message across.

So let me ask this. If the rolls were reversed and the PC version
lagged behind the Mac version, how would you all feel about PG music?

I have been a registered user for about 8 years (Atari day's). In that
time the only comunication I have received from PG music is an answer
to my feedback on their website about this very subject and even then
it took them a few weeks. Its to bad there isn't any other program
like this since competion would bring better service.

I am off the soapbox now.


web sign in/reply to Tom Speer

vstguy@...
 

Reply to Message from

Tom Speer here (again)

I have no problem with the list,I am receiving it fine ,its just access to
the web site that requires information be given to Yhoo (password ,login
id).

Please dont remove me from the list.

Thanks
Tom


I think that's the norm. I think its a great feature because the admin can quickly zapp those that misuse
the board.

What really bugs me is the way this board handles replies and threads.

I wish this board worked like VS-Planet or Cubase. Those boards require registration and sign in however
they handle threads much much better than eGroups.


Re: New poll for Band-in-a-Box

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

Bob "Notes" Norton said:
You can get Password Pro at many shareware sites or by going to
http://cmbsoftware.com/ and downloading it. I think the registration was
only $9.95 (paid it a long time ago, so it might have changed) and in you
want, you can password protect your password file. Then you can call up the
password file and use it to recall your various passwords and user names.
I am sure there are other shareware programs out there that also do the
same thing.
Richard Whitehouse responded:
Well, maybe so, but IMHO, it's just too much trouble. The way I see it,
if someone wants me to vote on a poll, I'm doing them a favour by going
there and voting, so they should make it as easy for me as possible.
And "Notes" adds.

I vote in the polls using the same password that I sign in with. I needed
the password to join the group, saved it in Password Pro, and when voting
time came around, I opened password pro, signed in and voted.

I could be wrong, but I don't think you can join this group without
registering a user name and password, and if you remember that name and
password, you can vote in the polls, post and do other things you cannot do
without entering the name and password.

Although a slight hassle, signing in with your group name and password does
benefit us in one way. Only group members are allowed to post, upload and
vote. That keeps the spammers away. One trip to the
alt.binaries.band.in.a.box usenet (newsgroup) group will illustrate what I
mean. For every post about Band-in-a-Box there are usually up to a dozen
posts about getting rich quick (it's legal, really), come see my xxx
pictures, refinance your house at zero percent interest, erase your bad
credit, find out anything about anybody, etc. You have all read the
subjects (and hopefully not opened the spam, it only encourages them when
you respond).

I also noticed that by using your user name and password, you can only vote
once. Since I use a Mac and a PC, I tried to enter both in the poll, and
the software wouldn't let me do that. I clicked Mac, then PC and instead of
adding another vote, it just changed my vote. So by using your name and
password, it keeps an unscrupulous person from "stuffing the ballot box" --
no hanging chads here ;-)

So although having to sign in with your already chosen user name and
password (you cannot post without it) may be a bit of a hassle, IMO it
provides two very useful functions. I would rather type in that name and
password than read a bunch of inappropriate spam posts or look at a poll
that has been stuffed to the point of such inaccuracy that it is not valid.

Just my .00000000002ยข worth




- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Norton Music is the #1 producer of BiaB after-market products in the world!
Featuring Power User Styles, Fake Disks, and Arangement Disks.
PLUS ... PG Music products at up to 20% off ... FREE Midi Files ... links
to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and more.


New Member Introduction

Clemmons, Scott <scottc@...>
 

Hi,

My name is Scott Clemmons. I just received my BIAB last Friday from Bob Norton after reading its praises on this list. I have to say, I am NOT disappointed, and, in fact, it exceeded my expectations. As mentioned in a previous posting of mine, my goal is to make MIDI "exercises" with Bass & Drums, such as ii-V-Is and such, so that I can play-along with them on a MIDI-capable piano. I was able to do this in a matter of minutes after installing the program. I made about a dozen such exercises this weekend. What surprised me was all of the other features that I didn't expect: the different harmony (esp. the Shearing style which I have been studying), the printing quality, and comping styles. I'll be able to use this to help my sight-reading skills,too. It took me about 5 minutes to enter the chords for a Dixie-Chicks song for my daughter to practice guitar along with. For its price, it's one of the most feature-packed programs I have purchased. (No, I don't have any affiliation!
with PG-Music.)

My background:
I'm 36, have been studying piano since 10. Most of my "prime" years I studied classical. After a 10-year on&off again college degree-plan, I received a Bachelor's in Jazz Performance. Despite this, I am the first to admit that my skills as a Jazz pianist are lacking and it's not since I graduated (about 9 years ago) that I have really started knowing what a Jazz pianist is supposed to sound like. I am inching my way forward, practicing when I can after the kids go to bed at night. I make my living as a Software Engineer, and I attribute my training/discipline as a pianist for my success. (When I was working on Beethoven's "Pathetic" Sonata in Cm for a Jury recital, I told myself that if I could accomplish that, I could do anything. I was right: I still have not found anything in the Software world as challenging. Then again, it's not rocket science or nuclear physics.)

I have an Ensoniq TS-12 keyboard (about 6-years old) that I don't play nearly as much since I got my Yamaha DGT7,a digital grand (about 6 months old). I love playing on it, and it has the nice feature of being able to play MIDI files,which I use to play-along with.

Currently I play with the Texas Instruments Jazz Band, a local big-band that has been around for about 15 years (see http://www.enerjazz.com/jazz/tijb.html ). This band consists of a bunch of engineers, part-time amateur musicians, that can really play! We gig on average of 12+ times a year, all for non-profit. Eventually, I would like to be in a small group as well, and play a few times a month, hopefully living out my retirement years as a full-time musician.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it for now.


Scott
:-|
No matter what happens,someone will find a way to take it too seriously.


Re: New poll for Band-in-a-Box

Richard Whitehouse <rsw@...>
 

Well, maybe so, but IMHO, it's just too much trouble. The way I see it,
if someone wants me to vote on a poll, I'm doing them a favour by going
there and voting, so they should make it as easy for me as possible.

You can get Password Pro at many shareware sites or by going to
http://cmbsoftware.com/ and downloading it. I think the registration was
only $9.95 (paid it a long time ago, so it might have changed) and in you
want, you can password protect your password file. Then you can call up the
password file and use it to recall your various passwords and user names.
I am sure there are other shareware programs out there that also do the
same thing.


Notation

Susan Tucker <novice@...>
 

Steve,

In the new age vernacular, I feel your pain. A couple of observations
from a long time BIAB user:

IMHO, the root of your problem is that you've mistaken BIAB for a
notation program. It's not. It's an auto-accompaniment tool, which
supports a minimal set of notation for Lead Sheet printing. That
notation support is, uh, idiosyncratic in some cases buggy in others.
It often handy for me, but if you want to be able to do key changes,
have accidentals display in a conventional manner, have second endings,
specify precise note values, rests, ties, dots, etc.... you need a
notation program.

I have been pleased no end by Noteworthy Composer, an inexpensive
notation program:

http://www.ntworthy.com/

Once you have the melody entered in either program, it's relatively
straightforward to export it as a MIDI file and ship it to the other
program. Of course, you'll lose the formatting in that case, but for
example you could use a melody exported from NWC to play with a BIAB
auto accompaniment. You'd have to enter the chords twice: as text in
NWC, and in the chord window of BIAB.

**********************

About practicing with your personal library of music.

What I often do, if I have a lead sheet from another source, is just
enter the chords in BIAB and the read from the lead sheet while BIAB
plays. Better yet, I don't enter the chords but find the tune in the
collection of stuff I've downloaded from the web.

**********************

Anyway, good luck, and I hope this helps a little.

Susan Tucker

Message: 8
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:47:49 -0600
From: Steve Ginn <sginn@airmail.net>
Subject: Frustration

Well I sat down with BiaB last night to try and enter in my first piece of
music, hoping to begin the process of building my personal library. And
much to my frustration, I ran into the following problems which I couldn't
seem to find the answer for anywhere in the documentation.

First, I could not find how to put a key change in the middle of the piece
other than forcing all the accidentals to change the piece to the new key
manually which was extremely tedious.

Second, while entering in the melody, I found it very difficult to enter the
melody exactly like it should be. For example in one measure, I could not
enter a dotted quarter followed by an eighth note ... The program persisted
in entering a quarter note tied to a sixteenth note followed by a dotted
eighth, but when you actually played it back in Lead Sheet mode it displayed
the notes as two quarters (figure that one out). Also, I could not find
anywhere in the documentation about how to tie notes together within a
measure so they would be either slurred or held as a single note with the
combined duration.

Finally, the styles have little to be desired with most sounding somewhat
the same except for maybe the rhythm pattern when moving from a swing feel
to a straight ahead rock feel. It was also frustrating when changing a
style to learn that the melody line that I had painstakingly entered had now
been changed into a very mundane resemblance of its original structure.

All in all, very frustrating.

I really want to tough it out with this program because of all the messages
I have read from people on this list that talk about the wonderful things
this program can do. I can also see how this could help speed up the
creation of lead sheets (in conjunction with a real notation program) with
its creation of piano and rhythm sections. But if it is going to actually
create twice as much work in the process, as much as I would like to have my
library available for practicing along with, I think I will pass.

Sincerely,

Steve

to help, or know who to co


Re: unwanted mail / lies from PG Music

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 12:34 AM 2/14/01 -0300, "Miguel Correa" <mac@giga.com.ar>wrote:

Now I can see that I'm not alone fighting spammers.
There is a good site that can help us all fight spammers. Their software
usually finds out where the mail is coming from (not the forged e-mail
address), and then reports the violation to the spammer's Internet
provider. Quite often that gets them kicked off the server. While this
doesn't stop them, it slows them down a bit.

http://spamcop.net/ is the website. The service is free, but there are some
low cost upgrades you can get that will filter your mail for you. I choose
the free service.

Plus if everybody would never-ever-under-any-circumstances buy something
that arrived in their in-box unsolicited, it wouldn't be worth anybody's
time to spam. No matter how much you want, need or love whatever they are
selling, just say "No" to spam.

I think that PG Music is a really serious company, and I didn't never
suspect that they has given my email address... so what? *sight*
I write third party (after-market) user styles for Band-in-a-Box. PG Music
approves of what I am doing and they like my styles so much that they have
referred hundreds of customers to me for additional styles. I have been
trying to rent PG Music's mailing list (snail mail) for years, but Peter
Gannon flatly refuses to sell, rent or give away any information about his
customers. I feel certain that if he won't rent the names to me, he isn't
going to rent or sell them to anybody.

I also have that same policy. Any information given to Norton music stays
at Norton Music. I go as far as to keep all customer information on
removable drives. That way even if a hacker comes to visit me and bypasses
my security, there is nothing for him to steal. The computer I use to go
on-line with has no customer or Norton Music sensitive information on it.

If somebody is selling or renting your personal information, it is a safe
bet that it is neither PG Music nor Norton Music.


- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Norton Music is the #1 producer of BiaB after-market products in the world!
Featuring Power User Styles, Fake Disks, and Arangement Disks.
PLUS ... PG Music products at up to 20% off ... FREE Midi Files ... links
to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and more.


Re: unwanted mail / lies from PG Music

Miguel Correa <mac@...>
 

Thanks Greg for your support!

Now I can see that I'm not alone fighting spammers.
But...

My primary concern is: how this dude got my private email address?
... and yours? (and a lot more, my mailbox is just beginning to
receive more and more messages about this topic, yup!)

I think that PG Music is a really serious company, and I didn't never
suspect that they has given my email address... so what? *sight*

again, thank you very much.


Regards
Michael


P.S.: I beg you pardon for my very poor command of English language,
it isn't my mother tongue.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Wilson" <gvwilson@interlog.com>
To: <Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <alisdair@alisdair.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:21 PM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] re: unwanted mail / lies from PG Music


I sent mail again this morning telling PG Music that I didn't
subscribe to this list. Mr. Birch's attempt to shuffle blame
by suggesting that someone might be masquerading as me is a
transparent attempt to duck blame, and I'm *still* getting
messages that I don't want via this list. I've contacted
Yahoo Groups about this abuse, and would encourage everyone
else who's getting unwanted mail to do the same.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alisdair MacRae Birch [mailto:alisdair@alisdair.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Re: Styles and Macs


Greg

It's not possible to get on this list without subscribing. Therefore
somewhere on 2/12/2001 you or someone with access to your details
subscribed you. I have removed you as requested. Please check to see
if someone is masquerading as you with access to your details.

---alisdair

--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., Greg Wilson <gvwilson@i...> wrote:
I didn't subscribe to this list, would someone please take me off
it?
(This is the fourth time I've asked.)

Firstly, thx for all the songs people have uploaded
songs. Just amazing.

My qestion... I've tried loading the styles on my mac
[OS 9, Biab v8] but it sees them as PC files. Why
would it see the songs as Biab files and not the
styles and how could I make the styles work on my mac?

-Dave

=====
My on-line photo albums can be viewed at:
http://uk.briefcase.yahoo.com/honking_dave

This address (honking_dave@y...) is my web-based means of
picking up home e-mails (dave_shannon@l...) at work
(david_shannon@i...). All three work (so if you just hit 'reply' it
doesn't matter) but home is best.

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web sign on

Tom Speer <rrcp@...>
 

Tom Speer here (again)

I have no problem with the list,I am receiving it fine ,its just access to
the web site that requires information be given to Yhoo (password ,login
id).

Please dont remove me from the list.

Thanks
Tom


Re: New poll for Band-in-a-Box

Tom Speer <rrcp@...>
 

I went there and tried to vote, but the site wanted me to "join". What is
with this current mania for making people join web pages all over the
place? I have way too many usernames and passwords to keep track of
allready.

My policy is, if the site wants me to 'sign up', or 'join', I'm gone.

Richard


Tom Speer replies:
I absolutely agree ! I get enough spam without signing up with another
source.

Tom


Re: unwanted mail / lies from PG Music

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 11:21 AM 2/13/01 -0500, "Greg Wilson" <gvwilson@interlog.com> wrote:
I sent mail again this morning telling PG Music that I didn't
subscribe to this list. Mr. Birch's attempt to shuffle blame
by suggesting that someone might be masquerading as me is a
transparent attempt to duck blame, and I'm *still* getting
messages that I don't want via this list. I've contacted
Yahoo Groups about this abuse, and would encourage everyone
else who's getting unwanted mail to do the same.
Dear Greg,

I am not an official of this group, just another group member so there is
really nothing I can do about your problem, but try to give you some
helpful advice.

I understand your frustration about not being able to stop something that a
nameless, faceless computer is doing *to you*, but please try to cool down
a bit. Getting excited won't help you solve your problem, it will only add
stress to your life -- and stress isn't good for your health. If there is a
problem (which there obviously is) being cool, systematic and rational
should be the best way to solve it.

PG Music has nothing to do with this list so that effort was wasted. All
you have done is taken a technicians time on a problem he has no way to solve.

On the bottom of each letter from this group there are subscribe and
unsubscribe messages.

Have you tried sending an e-mail message to the following e-mail address?

Band-in-a-Box-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

The above would be my first attempt to get off the list. If you have more
than one e-mail account, be sure to use the same e-mail address that the
posts from this group are sent to. If they are coming to more than one
e-mail address, you might have to do this for each e-mail address that you
are getting Band-in-a-Box posts.

If you have done the above, and if Mr. Birch's attempt to get you off the
list hasn't worked, then there is obviously a technical problem.

Mr. Birch was very factual with his assessment, this group is set up so you
cannot receive mail or post to this group without subscribing to it. If you
did not subscribe to the group, someone else may have done so in your name.
This is not to say that they did, but it is a possibility. Another
possibility I suspect is with Yahoo software. I suspect that you could have
done something else with Yahoo and a computer glitch might have sent you here.

I cannot speak for the rest, but I am here because I want to be here. I
subscribed because I like to talk about Band-in-a-Box. If I get tired of
the group, I'll unsubscribe (and hopefully won't have as much trouble as
you are having).

Contacting Yahoo groups is a good move, but it has been my experience that
the technical staff will usually respond quicker if you are polite. There
is an old proverb that applies here "You can catch more flies with honey
than with vinegar." And they will be able to help you quicker if you
include as much information as you can to help them help you (include a
copy of the letters you cannot unsubscribe to).

It has also been my experience that when something out of the ordinary
happens in the computer, it takes time to figure it out. The tech
departments are usually under staffed and they have a lot of pressure on
them. They didn't write the software so it can be looking for a needle in a
hay stack. Patience is a good thing here as long as you know they are
indeed working on your problem.

We don't want you on the group if you don't want to be here but we welcome
your presence if you want to be here. We are not here to spam you. We are
here to discuss Band-in-a-Box. I am very sure that Mr. Birch is trying to
help you.

I do sympathize with your problem, I get too much unwanted mail in my
mailbox and at times it has the power to irritate me. When it does, I
remember it isn't worth getting excited about (I don't want to give the
spammers the power to control *my* emotions) and simply hit the Delete key
as many times as it takes to trash them all.

Keep your cool and Mr. Birch (who started this group) should either be able
to help, or know who to contact for help.

And good luck. Once again, I know that these sort of things can be very
frustrating, but they are not worth impairing your health for. Patience,
persistence and perseverance should pay off in the long run.


- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Norton Music is the #1 producer of BiaB after-market products in the world!
Featuring Power User Styles, Fake Disks, and Arangement Disks.
PLUS ... PG Music products at up to 20% off ... FREE Midi Files ... links
to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and more.


Re: unwanted mail / lies from PG Music

Greg Wilson <gvwilson@...>
 

I sent mail again this morning telling PG Music that I didn't
subscribe to this list. Mr. Birch's attempt to shuffle blame
by suggesting that someone might be masquerading as me is a
transparent attempt to duck blame, and I'm *still* getting
messages that I don't want via this list. I've contacted
Yahoo Groups about this abuse, and would encourage everyone
else who's getting unwanted mail to do the same.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alisdair MacRae Birch [mailto:alisdair@alisdair.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Re: Styles and Macs


Greg

It's not possible to get on this list without subscribing. Therefore
somewhere on 2/12/2001 you or someone with access to your details
subscribed you. I have removed you as requested. Please check to see
if someone is masquerading as you with access to your details.

---alisdair

--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., Greg Wilson <gvwilson@i...> wrote:
I didn't subscribe to this list, would someone please take me off
it?
(This is the fourth time I've asked.)

Firstly, thx for all the songs people have uploaded
songs. Just amazing.

My qestion... I've tried loading the styles on my mac
[OS 9, Biab v8] but it sees them as PC files. Why
would it see the songs as Biab files and not the
styles and how could I make the styles work on my mac?

-Dave

=====
My on-line photo albums can be viewed at:
http://uk.briefcase.yahoo.com/honking_dave

This address (honking_dave@y...) is my web-based means of
picking up home e-mails (dave_shannon@l...) at work
(david_shannon@i...). All three work (so if you just hit 'reply' it
doesn't matter) but home is best.

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New poll for Band-in-a-Box reply to RICHARD WHITEHOUSE

vstguy@...
 

From: Richard Whitehouse <rsw@a...>
Date: Tue Feb 13, 2001 1:16pm
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] New poll for Band-in-a-Box

>To vote, please visit the following web page:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Band-in-a-Box/polls

I went there and tried to vote, but the site wanted me to "join". What is
with this current mania for making people join web pages all over the
place? I have way too many usernames and passwords to keep track of allready.

My policy is, if the site wants me to 'sign up', or 'join', I'm gone.

Richard


I agree with you Richard.

A very easy work around to this current policy to sign up or join by using a very obnoxious username.
phony address and fictitious "personal" information plus the same password at all those sites. The
computers at the sign sites are not very smart at verifying fictious from real information.

We all know that these sign in sites are simply to attact visits and hopefully sell some advertising.


Styles and Macs HERE IS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION/PROBLEM

vstguy@...
 

At 12:09 PM 2/13/01 +0000, David Shannon <honking_dave@y...> wrote:
>My qestion... I've tried loading the styles on my mac
>[OS 9, Biab v8] but it sees them as PC files. Why
>would it see the songs as Biab files and not the
>styles and how could I make the styles work on my mac?

What you have to do is to change the file type and file creator of those PC style files that Band in Box
can't "see".

It's very easy to change the file type and creator by using programmes ( applications ) such as

FileBuddy or Snitch ( Mac programmes ). There are many other similar drag/drop single purpose

applications. If you want one let me know here.


What you will have to do the first time around is by using for example FileBuddy " read " what the file
type/creater is for a file that Band in a Box can "see" and after that you can change the files that B in a
B can't see.



Believe me it's very simple to do.


Re: New poll for Band-in-a-Box

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 01:07 PM 2/13/01 +0000, you wrote:

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
Band-in-a-Box group:

Do you use Band-in-a-Box for PC or
Apple Macintosh?

o PC
o Apple Mac
If I use both, how do I enter that, or should I refrain from voting?


- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Norton Music is the #1 producer of BiaB after-market products in the world!
Featuring Power User Styles, Fake Disks, and Arangement Disks.
PLUS ... PG Music products at up to 20% off ... FREE Midi Files ... links
to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and more.


Re: New poll for Band-in-a-Box

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 08:16 AM 2/13/01 -0500, Richard Whitehouse <rsw@accessv.com> wrote:
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Band-in-a-Box/polls
I went there and tried to vote, but the site wanted me to "join". What is
with this current mania for making people join web pages all over the
place? I have way too many usernames and passwords to keep track of allready.

My policy is, if the site wants me to 'sign up', or 'join', I'm gone.
One good reason for making you join before you can participate, is to keep
the spammers and other "outsiders" out of the group.

You can get Password Pro at many shareware sites or by going to
http://cmbsoftware.com/ and downloading it. I think the registration was
only $9.95 (paid it a long time ago, so it might have changed) and in you
want, you can password protect your password file. Then you can call up the
password file and use it to recall your various passwords and user names.

I am sure there are other shareware programs out there that also do the
same thing.


- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Norton Music is the #1 producer of BiaB after-market products in the world!
Featuring Power User Styles, Fake Disks, and Arangement Disks.
PLUS ... PG Music products at up to 20% off ... FREE Midi Files ... links
to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and more.


I didn't subscribe to this list (was Re: Styles and Macs)

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 07:28 AM 2/13/01 -0500, Greg Wilson <gvwilson@ca.baltimore.com> wrote:
I didn't subscribe to this list, would someone please take me off it?
(This is the fourth time I've asked.)
You have to do that yourself, none of us can do that for you no matter how
hard you try.

Unsubscribe instructions should be at the bottom of each letter.

If you followed the instructions and still cannot unsubscribe, you have a
problem that might need tech help.

Good luck,

- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Norton Music is the #1 producer of BiaB after-market products in the world!
Featuring Power User Styles, Fake Disks, and Arangement Disks.
PLUS ... PG Music products at up to 20% off ... FREE Midi Files ... links
to MIDI file search pages ... download and print sheet music directly from
the web ... a few jokes to brighten your day ... and more.


Re: Styles and Macs

Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@...>
 

At 12:09 PM 2/13/01 +0000, David Shannon <honking_dave@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
My qestion... I've tried loading the styles on my mac
[OS 9, Biab v8] but it sees them as PC files. Why
would it see the songs as Biab files and not the
styles and how could I make the styles work on my mac?
Macs are funny animals (I own a Mac and a PC, so I can say that). Before
you can use a file on a Mac, it needs some "Header Information" on the file.

The header information tells the Mac OS which program is associated with
which file. In the 1980's this was a great idea and made the Mac easier to
use. Today, it is outdated and a minor pain and makes the Mac a little more
difficult to use. The PC and other followers use a different method (file
extensions). The Mac planners do not want to (or cannot) change their file
format to what has become the "standard-of-the-industry", so we are left
with this minor irritation.

In the old days of Apple File Exchange, you needed to use ResEdit or Norton
Utilities to get the header on the file. Now you can use PC Exchange. I am
using OS 7.1.6 and don't know if things have changed so I won't give you
step by step instructions.

But you do need to change the type and creator. Type should read STYL and
the creator should read BB40. Some versions of File Exchange let you choose
Band-in-a-Box instead of BB40.

The good news is that once you figure out how to set up PC Exchange for
these file types, you can forget it (I did) until you get a new computer,
they you will have to figure it out again.

Although I own a Mac, I am not a Mac guru (I prefer the PC) so perhaps
someone else in this group can explain it more thoroughly.


Bob "Notes" Norton
norton@nortonmusic.com
http://www.nortonmusic.com


Frustration

Steve Ginn <sginn@...>
 

Well I sat down with BiaB last night to try and enter in my first piece of
music, hoping to begin the process of building my personal library. And
much to my frustration, I ran into the following problems which I couldn't
seem to find the answer for anywhere in the documentation.

First, I could not find how to put a key change in the middle of the piece
other than forcing all the accidentals to change the piece to the new key
manually which was extremely tedious.

Second, while entering in the melody, I found it very difficult to enter the
melody exactly like it should be. For example in one measure, I could not
enter a dotted quarter followed by an eighth note ... The program persisted
in entering a quarter note tied to a sixteenth note followed by a dotted
eighth, but when you actually played it back in Lead Sheet mode it displayed
the notes as two quarters (figure that one out). Also, I could not find
anywhere in the documentation about how to tie notes together within a
measure so they would be either slurred or held as a single note with the
combined duration.

Finally, the styles have little to be desired with most sounding somewhat
the same except for maybe the rhythm pattern when moving from a swing feel
to a straight ahead rock feel. It was also frustrating when changing a
style to learn that the melody line that I had painstakingly entered had now
been changed into a very mundane resemblance of its original structure.

All in all, very frustrating.


I really want to tough it out with this program because of all the messages
I have read from people on this list that talk about the wonderful things
this program can do. I can also see how this could help speed up the
creation of lead sheets (in conjunction with a real notation program) with
its creation of piano and rhythm sections. But if it is going to actually
create twice as much work in the process, as much as I would like to have my
library available for practicing along with, I think I will pass.

Sincerely,

Steve