- Mings/ Norton arrangement
Re: Mings/ Norton arrangement
Bob \ Notes\ Norton <norton@...>
David pretty much covered it.
The demos for the expanded styles are set up for an expanded
style. Load one up, and you will see that the tempo is actually
half what the number in the BiaB window says it is and that two
BiaB cells equals one 4/4 bar of music.
If what David wrote and what I added still doesn't make sense, let
David and Bob. I am still a little confused. thank you
for putting up with an aging mind. So... if I want to
have the ballad play at 60, I enter the chords at 60 and
pretend that 2 measures are one and play back at 120?
That sounds strange when i do it....and doesn't produce
what i expect. Are there demos of these expanded styles
in action that i could use as templates?
a lot. You gentlemen have been so helpful to me
Thanks. That was different from the way I explained it,
and perhaps even better.
5/25/2018 2:40 PM, 'David H. Bailey' dhbailey52@...
On 5/25/2018 1:00 PM, Jim MIngs jmings2003@... [Band-in-a-Box] wrote:
Bob, may I ask you a question? Sometimes I don't get the simplest
things....I can't figure out how to manipulate the expanded styles. I
know the extra subdivisions are available, but i don't know how to use
them. I'm missing something. Please help and thanks again.
I'll try to explain things, then we'll both know whether I'm right when
Bob jumps in with his response.
The expanded styles are recorded at half-the speed they should be played
back at. So if it should sound best at 120bpm, Bob designed it
basically in "slow motion" so that when it is played back at double
speed, it sounds as if it's being played at 120bpm. Then when you set
your song to be played at 240, it will sound as if it's playing at 120.
Then when you enter your song's chords into BIAB's chord entry screen,
each measure on the screen is actually a half-measure of your song, so
you need two measures in BIAB to enter the chords for one measure of
Since BIAB won't allow more than 4 chords per measure, you now have 8
slots to enter chords in for every measure of your original song.
Example: If you have a song where the first 4 measures have a new chord
on beats 1 and 3 of each measure like this: C (2) F (4) | Dm (2) G7 (4)
using a Norton Expanded style you would enter that in BIAB as:
C (2) (3) (4) | F (2) (3) (4) | Dm (2) (3) (4) | G7 (2) (3) (4) |
And if you ever had a measure which was like this (Rainbow High from
Evita by Andrew Lloyd Webber): B A G E D B A E (each chord on an 8th
note) you would enter it using a Norton Expanded Style like this:
B, A G, E | D, B A, E| and it would sound like one single measure when
it played back.
The Norton Expanded Styles aren't for most songs -- although if there's
something Bob did in one of them that isn't in any of his other styles
you could certainly use them for any song. They're really for songs
which need more than 4 chords in a single measure.
And they can be hard to wrap your head around until you experiment with
them a bit, and then they make perfect sense after you hear how well
they work. Bob discovered how to break through PGMusic's pigheaded
insistence on no more than 4 chords in a measure, something I've never
understood beyond the fact that the coding at the core of the program
hasn't changed much in all these years and it would take a complete
rewrite of the core code to accomplish that. I bet that's something
that PGMusic simply can't afford to undertake since in reality it is
rarely needed. But when it's needed, it was sorely lacking until Bob
devised the expanded styles.
Now to wait and see if I explained things correctly!
Bob "Notes" Norton
Norton Music - http://www.nortonmusic.com
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