Re: New poll for Band-in-a-Box

Kenny Danielson <kendan@...>

I was going to answer the Reed rant but Norton did it quite expertly.

A point not emphasized enough is that it isn't a Mac vs. PC thing but
an OS thing. My OS was Windows NT4 but I had to make a dual boot
system for the audio stuff that was originally written for Mac and then
grudgingly adapted for Windows95. Mac is a good machine for media
types and you may remember when it was that they got all the attention
while the PC's had to settle for imperfectly adapted software or none
at all. Even now, my PC must dual boot W2K and W98 to use current
audio programs (originally Mac) that have not yet been updated.

The common advice in 1978, when I bought my first computer, was to
chose the software and then get a computer that would run it. Still true
today, unfortunately. It is really amazing that any software is written
for Mac these days, given the small population of users.

Norton's point about piracy is right on. If you want to see more output
from your favorite authors then support them. Keep pirating and they
will disappear forever.

Mac is a superior system for some things but keep in mind that market
forces dictate so don't take it personally if the consensus is contrary to
your desires and if you insist on championing a lost cause, you are quite
likely to be endlessly frustrated.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob 'Notes' Norton" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Re: New poll for Band-in-a-Box

At 07:30 AM 2/15/01 +0000, wrote:
You raise some very good points.

I have been a registered user for about 8 years (Atari day's).
I first bough BiaB for the Atari on version 3, waaaaaaaay back in the 80s.
Unfortunately, the Atari became an orphan because not enough people bought
software for it, if you can't make profit on the software, nobody will
write it, and the platform will die. The Amiga is another example. A fine
computer that died of a small user base.

[SNIP] They charged me as a Mac
user the same price and do not provide the same service as the PC
Some software manufacturers charge more for the Mac to try to make a

If they are not going to provide equal customer service for their
product all they need to do is let me know and I will take my business
elsewhere. After all that is the best way to get your message across.
Actually, that is the surest way to keep from ever having an update for

*** I too have a Mac (and a PC), so allow me to play "THE DEVIL'S
here. ***

The problem with the Mac platform is neither the hardware nor the OS, it
the small user base.

When I started writing styles for Band-in-a-Box, Mac was 25% of my market,
now it is less than 5%. Since music is one of the strongholds of the Mac
user base, it stands to reason that the rest of the industry shows similar
depressing numbers.

BTW, I dropped Atari support when it shrunk to under 1% or my sales.

Now suppose you were a software writer and you decide to spend a few
thousand hours writing software. You spend those writing for PC and Mac.
The PC platform returns almost $20.00 for every $1.00 that you see from
Mac platform. So you make almost 20 times the hourly wage writing for the
PC. It's a no brainer which you write for first.

Now it is time to invest a few thousand hours in an update. The natural
thing to do is to write for the PC and upgrade it first. You will get
almost 20 times the return for each hour spent.

OK, you spent almost a year on that and it sold well, but you need cash
flow to run this business so what are you going to do? Write another for
the PC or the Mac?

It is unfortunately a fact of life.

If you knew investing in one stock on wall street would return 20 times
value of another, which would you invest in?

To add insult to injury, I quit a Mac user's group because all they wanted
to do was swap stories and pirate software. If one person bought Page
Maker, they all had Page Maker. If one bought Illustrator, the all had
Illustrator. I doubt if all users groups are like this, but this
is one way to make sure you will be using a Windows computer in a few
years. Software is very time consuming to write and without a decent
on the investment, what's the use?

My advice to myself and all the other Mac users out there. Buy software,
and buy it often and buy a lot of it. Buy it whether you need it or not.
Never ever give it away. Instead of upgrading your Mac, upgrade your
software first. The only way to keep the Mac platform alive is by
supporting the Mac software industry. (You can start by purchasing all of
my after-market style disks and fake disks <grin>)

If the people who write software cannot make a decent profit for their
by writing for the Mac, it will go the way of the Atari and the Amiga.

Once again, I have no axe to grind, I like my Mac and I like my PC. I like
some things about the Mac better, and I like some things about the PC
better. It is comparing apples and oranges (sorry, I couldn't resist).
However, if the Mac user base drops to less than 1% of my user base, I
won't be able to afford to write for it anymore. At at 1%, I'll stick it
out longer than most people. PG seems to be cutting back at about 5%.

In summary, Mac users must show their numbers with their dollars if we
don't want our Macs to be orphans.

OK, I'm done playing "devil's advocate" and return you to your regularly
scheduled BiaB group.

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Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music

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